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Posted by amy on May 14, 2001 at 17:53:00:

In Reply to: Animal Rights Groups! Don't Support Them! posted by Alternator on May 14, 2001 at 16:58:42:

Animal rights groups claim to serve for the good of wildlife and pets, but they extremely naive ecologically. They may protest a mink farm for slaughtering them for fur but then release a large number of them, putting them into an environment that causes them to starve to death, become predated upon, etc. So who's really causing the suffering? Although animal experimentation can seem cruel and unusual (and previously had no regulations before IACUC was implemeted), there are teams of professionals now to carefully review and monitor reasons and methods of experimentation that make sure it is fruitful and the knowledge gained is useful. I am very against animal rights groups, but I do believe animals should be used and treated ethically and with compassion. PETA and ALF definitely have ulterior motives, and should probably take ecology and wildlife management courses before joining such extremist groups. That's my two cents. Take care all.

: :Please do not give any monies or support the so called animal rights groups. These groups press for laws to restrict or even outlaw the capture & or keeping of not only large or venemous snakes, but all reptiles in general is being pushed by animal rights organizations like PETA. Peta not only is against Hunting & Fishing, but Reptile hunting/collecting as well. They intice so many people to give to them to "save" the wildlife. A big part of their donated monies are fueled to pay salaries, run more anti-animal use ads, & lobby legislators into voting their way. The money really never helps anything except the existance of PETA. I bet alot of the members & staff of PETA still eat fast food burgers & wear leather shoes if the truth was known. Don't give to PETA, its not helping wildlife like it says it does!.....My thoughts........alternator

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Well although PETA are a bit too extreme for me.....(RANT) xta 05/14/01 (41)
- Re: Well although PETA are a bit too extreme for me.....(RANT) amy 05/16/01 (0)
- the OTHER side .... (LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) iZ's mom, the devil's advocate 05/14/01 (35)
  - amen,sister! amy 05/16/01 (0)
  - HUMANS ARE ANIMALS (LONG) BeRt ThE iGgY 05/16/01 (0)
  - IZ's Mom, The RIGHT SIDE!!!!! Read................ alternator 05/15/01 (15)
    - Re: Hey, alternator...hows the domestic cat skinning season going for you ? one of the old guys 05/16/01 (0)
    - I didn't know opinions had a right side................ xta 05/15/01 (8)
      - Re: I didn't know opinions had a right side................ amy 05/16/01 (0)
      - animals are dying from cancer and stuff like that too BeRt ThE iGgY 05/16/01 (4)
        
        Re: animals are dying from cancer and stuff like that too..So What....More. Alternator 05/17/01 (0)
        
        Re: animals are dying from cancer and stuff like that too amy 05/16/01 (2)
        
        Words of Wisdom, Thanks Amy!!!......... Alternator 05/17/01 (1)
        
        IMO Nick 05/19/01 (0)
      - Gee, try harder... alternator 05/15/01 (0)
      - they don't ~ !!! ......... : ) .......... nm iZ's mom 05/15/01 (0)
    - oh! excuse me ... iZ's mom 05/15/01 (4)
      - Re: oh! excuse me ... alternator 05/15/01 (3)
        
        *~apologies~* .......... (more) iZ's mom, should just be quiet .......... 05/15/01 (2)
        
        *~apologies~* from me too .......... (more) alternator 05/15/01 (1)
        
        *shaking hands* ... .... nm iZ's mom 05/15/01 (0)
  - Re: the OTHER side .... (LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) xta 05/15/01 (16)
    - Re: the OTHER side .... ( SHORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) alternator 05/15/01 (6)
      - Re: the OTHER side .... ( SHORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) xta 05/15/01 (5)
        
        Response to xta.... ( SHORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) alternator 05/15/01 (4)
        
        so sorry...next time I'll get your approval before I post ...n/m xta 05/15/01 (3)
        
        Just say a prayer for those research animals ...n/m alternator 05/15/01 (2)
        
        I'll agree to that n/m xta 05/15/01 (1)
        
        me too .......... nm iZ's mom 05/15/01 (0)
    - Re: the OTHER side .... (LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) iZ's mom 05/15/01 (8)
      - Re: the OTHER side .... (LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) amy 05/16/01 (2)
        
        Great Post Amy!! n/p Alternator 05/17/01 (0)
        
        good post amy! .......... nm iZ's mom 05/16/01 (0)
      - to iz's mom xta 05/15/01 (4)
        
        2 xta ... iZ's mom 05/15/01 (1)
        
        Re: 2 xta ... xta 05/15/01 (0)
        
        Re: to Xta...... alternator 05/15/01 (1)
        
        Re: to Xta...... xta 05/15/01 (0)
- One question that needs answering.....(ramblings) Mr. D 05/14/01 (2)
  - Amen on your Post!........ alternator 05/15/01 (0)
  - Great ramblings,,,I totally agree,,,, sue1 05/15/01 (0)
- I'll second that Samcin 05/14/01 (0)

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: Animal rights groups claim to serve for the good of wildlife and pets, but they extremely naive ecologically. They may protest a mink farm for slaughtering them for fur but then release a large number of them, putting them into an environment that causes them to starve to death, become predated upon, etc. So who's really causing the suffering? Although animal experimentation can seem cruel and unusual (and previously had no regulations before IACUC was implemeted), there are teams of professionals now to carefully review and monitor reasons and methods of experimentation that make sure it is fruitful and the knowledge gained is useful. I am very against animal rights groups, but I do believe animals should be used and treated ethically and with compassion. PETA and ALF definitely have ulterior motives, and should probably take ecology and wildlife management courses before joining such extremist groups. That's my two cents. Take care all. : : : :Please do not give any monies or support the so called animal rights groups. These groups press for laws to restrict or even outlaw the capture & or keeping of not only large or venemous snakes, but all reptiles in general is being pushed by animal rights organizations like PETA. Peta not only is against Hunting & Fishing, but Reptile hunting/collecting as well. They intice so many people to give to them to "save" the wildlife. A big part of their donated monies are fueled to pay salaries, run more anti-animal use ads, & lobby legislators into voting their way. The money really never helps anything except the existance of PETA. I bet alot of the members & staff of PETA still eat fast food burgers & wear leather shoes if the truth was known. Don't give to PETA, its not helping wildlife like it says it does!.....My thoughts........alternator

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