Re: 2 xta ...

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Posted by xta on May 15, 2001 at 20:15:50:

In Reply to: 2 xta ... posted by iZ's mom on May 15, 2001 at 19:54:14:

: the people i disagree with are the ones who think that by opening the cage doors + letting the animals go 'free', they're doing a good thing ...

I'd agree to that...make change through the proper channels. Activists many times just succeed in making twice as many animals suffer (because those animals WILL be replaced)

: there's a middle ground somewhere, tho i'm not sure WHERE ... there'll be an end someday to the use of animals in research ... i hope it's SOON cuz i feel really stuck in the middle of this issue and it's hard to agree + disagree with myself at the same time! :)

I know what you mean.

: see, cuz i don't believe that it's our 'right' as humans to do this ... i really don't ... animals are so much more moral than we are ~ they really are ... and when Mother Nature rids the earth of the human infestation, the animals will do a much better job of appreciating it!

It is sooo balanced when you take us out of the equation...that's what scares me.

: i DON'T believe that humans are necessarily the "highest" form of life ...

If we are, we're not living up to it.

: when i took care of lab animals, i had to narrow it down to JUST that ~ i TOOK CARE OF ANIMALS ... i talked to them, i listened to them, i rubbed their heads ... (except for that big brown rat that bit me ... i just talked to him!)

It makes me happy to know there are/were people like YOU in there making the animals more comfortable.

: *whew* ... i know what ya mean xta, i usually don't speak up or out with this kinda stuff ... it's way too volatile! but ya know, it's nice to be able to discuss opposing viewpoints and stay calm + rational ... THAT i like alot!

All in all it has been a good discussion (even though I am in the minority..heeeee)

: as far as discussing religion, politics, + everything else ... hmmmmmmmm ... i think i'll pass cuz my brain has done cramped up ...

oh thank goodness...I'm tired....we have to save something for later LOL...

: (fwiw ~ i voted gore + i think crucifixion is disgusting ... *grin*)
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Gee I think I voted for Gore, but who knows...I am a dumb@ss Floridian after all :-P (I did have to triple check my ballot to make sure though because the names did NOT line up with any of the stupid circles! And I had a totally different ballot than the one in question) Heh heh you want to talk about arguments...try being anything but a Republican and working with all military folk...uggh.

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: : the people i disagree with are the ones who think that by opening the cage doors + letting the animals go 'free', they're doing a good thing ... : I'd agree to that...make change through the proper channels. Activists many times just succeed in making twice as many animals suffer (because those animals WILL be replaced) : : : there's a middle ground somewhere, tho i'm not sure WHERE ... there'll be an end someday to the use of animals in research ... i hope it's SOON cuz i feel really stuck in the middle of this issue and it's hard to agree + disagree with myself at the same time! :) : I know what you mean. : : see, cuz i don't believe that it's our 'right' as humans to do this ... i really don't ... animals are so much more moral than we are ~ they really are ... and when Mother Nature rids the earth of the human infestation, the animals will do a much better job of appreciating it! : It is sooo balanced when you take us out of the equation...that's what scares me. : : i DON'T believe that humans are necessarily the "highest" form of life ... : If we are, we're not living up to it. : : : when i took care of lab animals, i had to narrow it down to JUST that ~ i TOOK CARE OF ANIMALS ... i talked to them, i listened to them, i rubbed their heads ... (except for that big brown rat that bit me ... i just talked to him!) : It makes me happy to know there are/were people like YOU in there making the animals more comfortable. : : : *whew* ... i know what ya mean xta, i usually don't speak up or out with this kinda stuff ... it's way too volatile! but ya know, it's nice to be able to discuss opposing viewpoints and stay calm + rational ... THAT i like alot! : All in all it has been a good discussion (even though I am in the minority..heeeee) : : : as far as discussing religion, politics, + everything else ... hmmmmmmmm ... i think i'll pass cuz my brain has done cramped up ... : oh thank goodness...I'm tired....we have to save something for later LOL... : : : (fwiw ~ i voted gore + i think crucifixion is disgusting ... *grin*) : : : Gee I think I voted for Gore, but who knows...I am a dumb@ss Floridian after all :-P (I did have to triple check my ballot to make sure though because the names did NOT line up with any of the stupid circles! And I had a totally different ballot than the one in question) Heh heh you want to talk about arguments...try being anything but a Republican and working with all military folk...uggh.

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