I totally agree - on one point made....

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Posted by Mr. D on May 09, 2002 at 00:34:47:

In Reply to: To Hasim~ posted by Tiffany on May 08, 2002 at 14:01:15:

I also do my best to know how to treat as many ailments as possible even though my veterinarian is only half an hour away. HOWEVER, I will not be one to a.) knowingly put an animal's life and/or well being in jeopardy by helping someone that THINKS they know what they're doing play "doctor" simply because they do not have the appropriate resources necessary to adequately care for an animal. I agree with Xta that the vet, even if not familiar with reptiles, would have been able to do an excellent job with the situation simply by consulting with a known herp vet over the phone. Suturing is not a major procedure and should be able to be handled by almost any licensed veterinarian. Or b.) assist someone in quite possibly breaking the law by knowingly giving them the information necessary to perform a potentially harmful/illegal procedure such as the one that Hasim described.

And, fortunately/unfortunately, if I think someone is intentionally doing something that, in my mind, is a stupid move then for better or worse I'm going to tell them that. Sorry. If you came here with a similar issue I would have said the same thing to you, Tiffany. As I said, there ARE certain things that experienced, responsible animal keepers can do to care for their animals. ONE of them is knowing when NOT to play doctor and actually TAKE the animal to a qualified veterinarian. If you do not have the appropriate network in place to properly care for an animal that you assume responsibility for when you bring it into your home, then you have absolutely no business owning that animal regardless of species. And if someone is scared because I tell them on an anonymous message board that I believe they are in need of a "rectal craniotomy" then I can only imagine what they would feel if it were told to them in person. Honest questions are fine, I, for one, have not problem one with answering them. We were all new to something at one point. However, seemingly innocent questions when associated with inappropriate (and possibly illegal) actions aren't something that I can simply answer and let go. I just remembered an ad campaign for a local newspaper - "If you want something sugar coated - go buy a donut."

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Re: I totally agree - on one point made.... Hasim 05/09/02 (16)
- Hasim, just want to commend (more) teguD 05/11/02 (0)
- Re: I totally agree - on one point made.... Mr. D 05/09/02 (14)
  - Mr D, You're just wasting your time... Let him go on his way Mark 05/09/02 (6)
    - Re: ... Let him go on his way JoeM 05/09/02 (5)
      - hold on.... Anna 05/10/02 (4)
        
        Re: We DO need to talk about this. JoeM 05/10/02 (2)
        
        Re: We DO need to talk about this. Mr. D 05/11/02 (0)
        
        Re: We DO need to talk about this. John-Paul 05/10/02 (0)
        
        Re: hold on.... D.K 05/10/02 (0)
  - Re: I totally agree - on one point made.... hasim 05/09/02 (0)
  - Re: We are the "experts," remember? JoeM 05/09/02 (5)
    - I live in the 'boondocks' of Canada ... Ally's Mom 05/09/02 (2)
      - Re: Wow! sound great - no kidding! JoeM 05/09/02 (1)
        
        PS - JoeM 05/09/02 (0)
    - Re: We are the "experts," remember? John-Paul 05/09/02 (1)
      - Re: We are the "experts," remember? John-Paul 05/09/02 (0)

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: I also do my best to know how to treat as many ailments as possible even though my veterinarian is only half an hour away. HOWEVER, I will not be one to a.) knowingly put an animal's life and/or well being in jeopardy by helping someone that THINKS they know what they're doing play "doctor" simply because they do not have the appropriate resources necessary to adequately care for an animal. I agree with Xta that the vet, even if not familiar with reptiles, would have been able to do an excellent job with the situation simply by consulting with a known herp vet over the phone. Suturing is not a major procedure and should be able to be handled by almost any licensed veterinarian. Or b.) assist someone in quite possibly breaking the law by knowingly giving them the information necessary to perform a potentially harmful/illegal procedure such as the one that Hasim described. : And, fortunately/unfortunately, if I think someone is intentionally doing something that, in my mind, is a stupid move then for better or worse I'm going to tell them that. Sorry. If you came here with a similar issue I would have said the same thing to you, Tiffany. As I said, there ARE certain things that experienced, responsible animal keepers can do to care for their animals. ONE of them is knowing when NOT to play doctor and actually TAKE the animal to a qualified veterinarian. If you do not have the appropriate network in place to properly care for an animal that you assume responsibility for when you bring it into your home, then you have absolutely no business owning that animal regardless of species. And if someone is scared because I tell them on an anonymous message board that I believe they are in need of a "rectal craniotomy" then I can only imagine what they would feel if it were told to them in person. Honest questions are fine, I, for one, have not problem one with answering them. We were all new to something at one point. However, seemingly innocent questions when associated with inappropriate (and possibly illegal) actions aren't something that I can simply answer and let go. I just remembered an ad campaign for a local newspaper - "If you want something sugar coated - go buy a donut."

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