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Posted by Shanty on January 31, 2003 at 19:17:57:

In Reply to: The question on my mind is . . .> posted by terryp on January 31, 2003 at 17:56:45:

Terry -- my "example" of a bairdi from just across the Rio Grande was just that, an example. If Adam says these are Texas bairdi, then the male looks more Mexican than Texan; that's all I am asserting--he "looks" like a Mexican bairdi. Not that he "IS" a Mexican bairdi because I DO NOT KNOW.

And I don't know what Adam said on this forum several months or a few years ago. I know what he told me--that the founder pair--and that is the pair I have--were from TWO different sources but he did not offer that they were, in fact, Texas bairdi. But if he did SAY he crossed some bairdi from the Texas and Mexican lines, then this COULD BE the pair. I am putting 2 + 2 together here. Only Adam can provide the final answer, and I am guessing you want it to be 4.

In any event, I have the founder pair, and I will sell their offspring as generic bairdi. That's what you have no matter if they are Texas bairdi from two different identifiable locales, or from two unidentifibale locales, or from a Mexican X Texas bairdi pairing--Pantherophis bairdi is Pantherophis bairdi. I understand your differentiation, but . . . I can't offer anything more.

Shannon



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