Re: Good discussion

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Posted by filthy on August 04, 1999 at 06:11:30:

In Reply to: Re: Education and it's incentives posted by Andy on August 04, 1999 at 03:00:04:

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: : You're right. Average Joe doesn't know what he's getting into when he buys an iguana, but the same applys to birds, frogs, fish, VCRs, and like you mention, dogs. (though I don't see a direct connection. The plight of the green ig has it's own circumstances) Again though, the more expensive the animal, the more likely the consumer will have done his/her "homework". There may be people that buy $100 and up herps that don't know their needs, but I'd imagine they are few and far between. At some level the consumer has to take responsibility for educating themselves. They are much more likely to do this if they are shelling out some serious money. There has been a massive (for the herp community) info campaign about green igs. There is more readily availible quality info out there than ever before. So why are there still so many unwanted igs? If you were surprised to see igs at a show, you must not get to many. Just like there are good stores and bad stores, there are good and bad booths at a show. But they are all there to turn a buck, and they will put out whatever sells. If the public demanded quality CB animals they would sell them or lose money. Like I said, wait until the albino igs become established. You won't see them being mistreated, and the only difference between them and the igs that are abandoned now will be that they are CB and expensive.

: BTW, although arboreal snakes tend to lap it from the sides and furnishings of their enclosure, all terrestrial snakes I can think of drink standing water. A little irony is good for your blood. =)

: Later,

: Andy

Good discussion.

I seen to remember saying a while back that a care sheet and a FULL PHYSICAL DISCRIPTION should be given along with every Iguana sold - or any other exotic for that matter. People don't know what they're getting into when they buy one of these lizards. I didn't know until My daughter brought home an Ig in pretty pitiful shape.

I am all for CB over WC, but that is not the problem I am addressing. Problem be's that there are too many unwanted animals out there. If someone has a pair of Iguanas, breeds then, incubates the eggs and goes through all the hassle only to sell the offspring (nobody in their right ming is going to keep a dozen + Green Iguanas) for next to nothing because there is no better price, he's doing it because he likes to raise Iguanas. And that's good, but still many if not all his CBs will go to impulse buyers that will either kill or abandon them because they don't know whaddahell they're getting, adding to the problem.

And that is why that even though I am a FNG with Iguanas, I am opposed to captive breeding and am most likely to remain so.

I think that someday, but not now, thank you, I may get the Garoot an ol' lady. When I do, I will also start keeping an egg-eating snake.

Hang in,

filthy

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: : : : : : You're right. Average Joe doesn't know what he's getting into when he buys an iguana, but the same applys to birds, frogs, fish, VCRs, and like you mention, dogs. (though I don't see a direct connection. The plight of the green ig has it's own circumstances) Again though, the more expensive the animal, the more likely the consumer will have done his/her "homework". There may be people that buy $100 and up herps that don't know their needs, but I'd imagine they are few and far between. At some level the consumer has to take responsibility for educating themselves. They are much more likely to do this if they are shelling out some serious money. There has been a massive (for the herp community) info campaign about green igs. There is more readily availible quality info out there than ever before. So why are there still so many unwanted igs? If you were surprised to see igs at a show, you must not get to many. Just like there are good stores and bad stores, there are good and bad booths at a show. But they are all there to turn a buck, and they will put out whatever sells. If the public demanded quality CB animals they would sell them or lose money. Like I said, wait until the albino igs become established. You won't see them being mistreated, and the only difference between them and the igs that are abandoned now will be that they are CB and expensive. : : BTW, although arboreal snakes tend to lap it from the sides and furnishings of their enclosure, all terrestrial snakes I can think of drink standing water. A little irony is good for your blood. =) : : Later, : : Andy : : Good discussion. : I seen to remember saying a while back that a care sheet and a FULL PHYSICAL DISCRIPTION should be given along with every Iguana sold - or any other exotic for that matter. People don't know what they're getting into when they buy one of these lizards. I didn't know until My daughter brought home an Ig in pretty pitiful shape. : I am all for CB over WC, but that is not the problem I am addressing. Problem be's that there are too many unwanted animals out there. If someone has a pair of Iguanas, breeds then, incubates the eggs and goes through all the hassle only to sell the offspring (nobody in their right ming is going to keep a dozen + Green Iguanas) for next to nothing because there is no better price, he's doing it because he likes to raise Iguanas. And that's good, but still many if not all his CBs will go to impulse buyers that will either kill or abandon them because they don't know whaddahell they're getting, adding to the problem. : And that is why that even though I am a FNG with Iguanas, I am opposed to captive breeding and am most likely to remain so. : I think that someday, but not now, thank you, I may get the Garoot an ol' lady. When I do, I will also start keeping an egg-eating snake. : Hang in, : filthy

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