Re: White-lipped Python query

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Posted by Wulf Schleip on March 03, 2002 at 22:52:30:

In Reply to: White-lipped Python query posted by Will Schmidt on March 03, 2002 at 21:45:10:

Hi Will,

that's what I asked myself, too. McDowell (1975) lumped them together and even Kluge (1992) didn't serperate them...
Well Ray Hoser did the job in 2000 and made him a seperate species. The golden and the brown one should be subsp. nov.
As I understand the new taxa do not agree with the ICZN rules so that the do not seem to be valid or at least need to be discussed. Most of the information given be Ray are taken from McDowell anyway.
If you'd like to read the paper, please look at :

http://www.smuggled.com/pytrev1.htm or the whole as PDF file http://www.smuggled.com/pytrsm1.pdf.

But I guess someone else will have a closer look at the Leiopython "complex" soon and will come up with new taxa on them.

Cheers,
Wulf

: Why is it that no one has gone and formally named the
: black species of white-lipped pythons L. albertisi
: from southern PNG
: as it's obvious to even a lay person that they are different
: to the nominate brown form from elsewhere?
: And/or is anyone working on naming them?

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Hoser Python Names Available under ICZN Rules Richard Wells 03/06/02 (17)
- Re: Hoser Python Names Available under ICZN Rules WW 03/07/02 (16)
  - Sinking Nomen oblitums under the new code Scott Thomson 03/07/02 (2)
    - Re: Sinking the New Code Richard Wells 03/11/02 (1)
      - Re: Sinking the New Code Scott Thomson 03/11/02 (0)
  - Excuse me! Raymond Hoser 03/07/02 (12)
    - Ray: Did you look at the Type of Leiopython gracilis??? Richard Wells 03/12/02 (2)
      - Re: Ray: Did you look at the Type of Leiopython gracilis??? Scott Thomson 03/13/02 (1)
        
        Re: Ray: Did you look at the Type of Leiopython gracilis??? Richard Wells 03/14/02 (0)
    - Dealing with Synonyms means publishing a Synonomy! Scott Thomson 03/07/02 (0)
    - Did you examnine the types? n/p WW 03/07/02 (7)
      - A/ Yes, no, on my behalf and Do you ever stop surfing on Kingsnake? Raymond Hoser 03/07/02 (6)
        
        Looking at snakes... WW 03/07/02 (5)
        
        WW You Missed your vocation Raymond Hoser 03/07/02 (4)
        
        Re: WW You Missed your vocation WW 03/08/02 (3)
        
        Vindicated - WW You Missed your vocation Raymond Hoser 03/08/02 (2)
        
        Then repost the info. WW 03/08/02 (1)
        
        Going bush>> Jerry Feldner 03/09/02 (0)
Please explain? Raymond Hoser 03/05/02 (8)
- Re: Please explain? Wulf Schleip 03/08/02 (0)
- Hoser names OK Paul Hackett 03/07/02 (6)
  - Re: Hoser names OK Raymond Hoser 03/07/02 (4)
    - ROFLMAO! WW 03/07/02 (3)
      - Who? Raymond Hoser 03/07/02 (2)
        
        Your assertion is incorrect..... Marty 03/07/02 (1)
        
        Thanks Marty N/P Raymond Hoser 03/07/02 (0)
  - Re: Hoser names OK WW 03/07/02 (0)

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: Hi Will, : that's what I asked myself, too. McDowell (1975) lumped them together and even Kluge (1992) didn't serperate them... : Well Ray Hoser did the job in 2000 and made him a seperate species. The golden and the brown one should be subsp. nov. : As I understand the new taxa do not agree with the ICZN rules so that the do not seem to be valid or at least need to be discussed. Most of the information given be Ray are taken from McDowell anyway. : If you'd like to read the paper, please look at : : http://www.smuggled.com/pytrev1.htm or the whole as PDF file http://www.smuggled.com/pytrsm1.pdf. : But I guess someone else will have a closer look at the Leiopython "complex" soon and will come up with new taxa on them. : Cheers, : Wulf : : Why is it that no one has gone and formally named the : : black species of white-lipped pythons L. albertisi : : from southern PNG : : as it's obvious to even a lay person that they are different : : to the nominate brown form from elsewhere? : : And/or is anyone working on naming them?

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