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Posted by emoneill on December 09, 2002 at 12:53:16:

In Reply to: paper in the works . . . posted by troy h on December 09, 2002 at 10:11:21:

:as it turns out, there is apparently a paper in the works that will refute burbink's conclusion that "slowinskii" is a full species (these workers apparently will recognize it as a ssp).

First I have to say that I hope you are just mistaken that these "workers" have already decided a priori what their conclusions are. Results lead to conclusions not the other way around. And it sound like they don't have the data yet.

Second, what results would suggest that these are a subspecies? I am fine with rejecting these as species, IF THE DATA SUPPORT IT, but that would not make them a subspecies automatically. I recognize that geographic variation exists, but the subspecies concept is outdated and rather difficult to defend.



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