Re: The Need for Subspecies

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Posted by Dave Beamer on November 10, 1998 at 20:31:27:

In Reply to: The Need for Subspecies posted by RP on November 10, 1998 at 13:42:57:

The fact that subspecies have nothing to do with science is exactly why I will not support their use in regulations supposedly based on sound biological principles. The state clearly has the authority to enforce laws on native animals even when they do not originate in the state. I do not see how this makes it necessary to list by subspecies. Why not just recognize every tiny variation as a taxonomic unit and we could then list banana kings and zipper corns too. When species are listed it generally depends on what the advising committee uses. Since subspecies have largely been abandoned it is becoming less common for subspecies to be listed. In many states many subspecies are listed as a residue from earlier taxonomic conventions.
Dave Beamer

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: The fact that subspecies have nothing to do with science is exactly why I will not support their use in regulations supposedly based on sound biological principles. The state clearly has the authority to enforce laws on native animals even when they do not originate in the state. I do not see how this makes it necessary to list by subspecies. Why not just recognize every tiny variation as a taxonomic unit and we could then list banana kings and zipper corns too. When species are listed it generally depends on what the advising committee uses. Since subspecies have largely been abandoned it is becoming less common for subspecies to be listed. In many states many subspecies are listed as a residue from earlier taxonomic conventions. : Dave Beamer

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