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(more philosophy)reproduction is not happiness?

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Posted by MiserMike on April 16, 2003 at 14:13:41:

In Reply to: Re: spotted turtles posted by Kanuck on April 16, 2003 at 12:31:23:

I agreed with you last time, so I'll throw in a contrary position, just for the sake of fairness. (I'm an equal-opportunity pest.) Successful reproduction does not mean animals are "happy." Many organisms respond to stress with increased reproduction. Mama Nature says, "In times of trouble, have lots of kids, in the hope that some may survive." Papa Freud says,".." [Let's not go there. Catharsis of libido release, pffft.]When I kept bees, I got better honey production in drought years, because plants put their last moisture into nectar, to ensure pollination and seed for a new generation. The chickens that ran loose on our farm laid far fewer eggs then the factory-farm hens in their tiny cages. Human birthrates are highest in times and places of stress; look at world census figures, or just casual observation.

I think that if you can provide an animal with the necessary conditions to grow to an adult and reproduce offspring consistently then you're in the right ballpark.

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