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Posted by Kanuck on April 16, 2003 at 14:29:51:
In Reply to: (more philosophy)reproduction is not happiness? posted by MiserMike on April 16, 2003 at 14:13:41:
Very interesting observations, I can't dispute what you have to say in regards to the examples you've given. You may well be right and the fact that I'm able to reproduce my turtles has nothing to do with how "happy" they are with the setup I've provided for them. I will add however, that in the 20 plus years I've been keeping turtles and tortoises(geez I'm getting old) I've found that by tweeking the conditions that they were living in(giving them more space, cutting down on number of individuals per tank, giving them better hides, more suitable substrates etc) I've seen an increase in breeding success. I equate that to them being happier with their living space. But maybe thats just me anthropomorphising. Maybe breeding success is nothing more than providing adequate food, temperatures, substrate and compatible members of the opposite sex. Anyway you've given me some good food for thought.
