but what name came first....and how to find the HYBINO

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Posted by Jeff S on July 24, 2002 at 14:10:37:

In Reply to: couple questions posted by Terry on July 24, 2002 at 13:05:29:

Terry, in science we give credit where credit is due. I think the term ruby/lavender-eye albino was in use way before the HYPO started popping up. And yes, if you look at it that way we are attacking different ends of the same problem but there can only be 1 head and 1 tail. And getting back a bit to color, I think you will agree that these BROWNS that are being seen very well could be this ruby-eye albino influence on the red pigment.Andit is my belief(having dealt with looking into this problem everyday for a year,lol) that eye color and "degree"of "hypomelanism/ruby-eye amelanism"is variable! Now what is VERY interesting is the fact that the ruby-eye gene is popping up in red-eye gene pools FAR TOO REGULARLY to be considered random. It has happened 2/3 times out of how many morphs??? 100/200?? And to add to that light bulb example... lets say that there is both a red and black piece of paper over the light...you will only see black. Now lets say that this "lavender" piece REPLACES the black but does not replace/remove the red....you will see the brown that you are seeing. This to me says that these are RED snakes with black and yellow not any other combination. Makes sense, yes?And I will go along with the notion of different genes expressing the same "outward appearance". Yes you can "double" it to take away more pigment. But in the example of defining a HYBINO using the light bulb theory...I think the key place to look would be the YELLOW bands. With my ratsnake red-eye seems dominant and the yellow is replaced with ORANGE(which would be a yellow and a lavender filter together) This would of course be doubly hard to find in hondurans because of the proliferance for orange to begin with. Makes sense? Obviously it would be far easier to see a HYBINO in say the tri-color line--but would you assume that it was just a tangerine that got through?? Hey, what did you think of the ratsnake pics? Believe me its way easier to see the subtle differences in person as taking a pic of an albino snake is VERY frustrating. As usual, rip up my klingon and get back to me,Jeff

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: Terry, in science we give credit where credit is due. I think the term ruby/lavender-eye albino was in use way before the HYPO started popping up. And yes, if you look at it that way we are attacking different ends of the same problem but there can only be 1 head and 1 tail. And getting back a bit to color, I think you will agree that these BROWNS that are being seen very well could be this ruby-eye albino influence on the red pigment.Andit is my belief(having dealt with looking into this problem everyday for a year,lol) that eye color and "degree"of "hypomelanism/ruby-eye amelanism"is variable! Now what is VERY interesting is the fact that the ruby-eye gene is popping up in red-eye gene pools FAR TOO REGULARLY to be considered random. It has happened 2/3 times out of how many morphs??? 100/200?? And to add to that light bulb example... lets say that there is both a red and black piece of paper over the light...you will only see black. Now lets say that this "lavender" piece REPLACES the black but does not replace/remove the red....you will see the brown that you are seeing. This to me says that these are RED snakes with black and yellow not any other combination. Makes sense, yes?And I will go along with the notion of different genes expressing the same "outward appearance". Yes you can "double" it to take away more pigment. But in the example of defining a HYBINO using the light bulb theory...I think the key place to look would be the YELLOW bands. With my ratsnake red-eye seems dominant and the yellow is replaced with ORANGE(which would be a yellow and a lavender filter together) This would of course be doubly hard to find in hondurans because of the proliferance for orange to begin with. Makes sense? Obviously it would be far easier to see a HYBINO in say the tri-color line--but would you assume that it was just a tangerine that got through?? Hey, what did you think of the ratsnake pics? Believe me its way easier to see the subtle differences in person as taking a pic of an albino snake is VERY frustrating. As usual, rip up my klingon and get back to me,Jeff

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