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Posted by Dave Beamer on November 11, 1998 at 10:13:35:
In Reply to: Re: What Did This Guy In N.J. Know ? posted by Steve on November 11, 1998 at 06:44:36:
The only time I ever collected and removed from a population an endangered herp was when i was just a hobbyiest. It was a common thing for hobbyiest to do and I was encouraged to just keep an eye out for CO's. I regret collecting those animals to this day especially since one population is probably extinct now and I can't help but feel my removal of one individual sped that process. Back in the day me and my buddies (you know the good guys people who would never just collect everything to sell but maybe just poach an animal here and there so they could breed it back home) would go on collecting trips to state parks and national parks ect. As soon as I had matured enough to realize that those activities were wrong I discontinued them but maybe it was all bad as I got an inside look at the mentality of a lot of the good guy herpers that Ric and you have talked about. I have captured many endangered herps and marked and released them as part of my work on population dynamics but this can hardly be considered collecting. So called contribution? What would you prefer to call the bog turtle population work, pine snake hibernacula creation ect. That just sounds terrible about the Pine snakes. It probably would have been a lot better to give localities to collectors so they could try to catch individuals of this endangered species so that they could try to perpetuate a mutation. Why should it not have been kept quiet? Please direct me to some of the publications that list John's contributions in them.
Dave Beamer
