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Posted by regalringneck on January 05, 2002 at 15:05:14:
All good points appended below, but none mentioning that... this action does not constitute a "hybrid". It might well create the monster: Drymarchon domesticus?, Also creating what would likely be a most beautiful & vigorous cribo-negro.
Biologically, the Forest Guardians appear to integrade on many boundaries. In warmer climes, not so long ago, the texicans & easterns likely interfaced too. I thus suggest this action is less than the infamous crime against nature!
Its not like anybodys going to release them anyway. But if/when this intergrade is made, hopefully...the individuals involved will represent them as such & paperwork accompanies them as it should..
The thought that the gumment might choose to have no interest in them... is definitely appealing...tho I predict they would save themselves the hassle & treat them all as easterns anyway!
cheers & beers, jg
Hybridizing to skirt a law that has been put into place..
Posted by Fredrick Albury on January 02, 2002 at 23:33:13:
In Reply to: (forum mover) What does everyone think about... posted by A.C. on January 02, 2002 at 12:31:16:
: crossing an eastern indigo with a Texas indigo???
: This hybridization is commonpractice with the crocadillian guys because you don't need special permits to transport hybrids across state lines.
: Has anyone ever done it? Anyone have any pics? I think it would be wild to see.
: I know alot of you would say that it would "cheapen" the offspring...but it depends...from solely a marketing standpoint, it would make moving the babies easier and FASTER...
: I myself would like to own some pure snakes before trying this, but I wonder what some of you vet indigo keepers think about this venture.
Probably the single most offensive thing that I have heard about Drymarchon in quite a while.
With the exception of the gentleman that posted here a while back about the Indigo/Mexican Black king crosses.
In short, why should breeders of Eastern Indigos compromise the genetic integrity of their snakes just to skate under the wire of a federal law?
Marketability?
Not a good enough reason.
True 100% pure Eastern Indigos are not hard to sell. True the shipping can be held up for the permit process, but then waiting isnt such a bad thing.
Remember when you had to wait WEEKS to get a price list sent to you in the mail?
Nowadays you can look it up INSTANTLY.
The waiting and the thinking have been removed somewhat...and the anticipation also.
So, the permit process gives the buyer time to think about his purchase, anticpate it, and prepare for it.
Why hybridize our snakes just to get past that?
I personally think that the diffrences in the various indigo subspecies make them unique.
why muddy it?
Like boa breeder have done?
Like Pituophis breeders have done?
Like python breeders have done?
Lets be different.
Fred Albury
(Aztec Reptiles)
