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Posted by Derek K. on April 28, 2002 at 19:51:08:

In Reply to: On Demansia posted by Scott Eipper on April 26, 2002 at 21:35:43:

: Derek,

: The name Demansia atra is actually invalid. It was previously used however D. vestigiata is now the current name. (See for eg A. Greer's Biology and evolution of Australian Snakes)

Evidently I missed this taxon change, however, appreciate the update!

: Black Whip Snake...while general usage is not a great name....due to variance in colour...some are black...see photo in Rick Shine's Australian Snakes - Natural History, then look at a pic in Mirtschin's Book.

I read somewhere the common names lesser and greater Black Whip Snakes, not sure which reference, appeared to be two different species?. By the way, which Mirtschin's book? I only have Dangerous Snakes of Australia by Mirtschin. Curious???

Cheers,

Derek K.

: While not recorded in Demansia vestigiata rapid colour change has also been reported on the genus.

:
: Regards,

: Scott Eipper

Follow Ups:

Re: Hmmmm, Scott Eipper 04/29/02 (16)
- Yep, just happen to have Mirtschins's 82 version (excellent reference!!): Derek K. 04/29/02 (15)
  - Re: Yep, just happen to have Mirtschins's 82 version (excellent reference!!): WW 04/30/02 (3)
    - Sounds like an echo? Derek K. 05/01/02 (1)
      - Re: Sounds like an echo? WW 05/02/02 (0)
    - Agreed..I started spitting them out at 10 yrs old and have'nt stopped n/m Scott Eipper 05/01/02 (0)
  - Re: Yep, just happen to have Mirtschins's 82 version (excellent reference!!): Scott Eipper 04/30/02 (10)
    - Cannia australis Derek K. 05/01/02 (9)
      - Re: Cannia australis WW 05/02/02 (8)
        
        Re: Cannia australis and "Pseudechis".....more Scott Eipper 05/06/02 (7)
        
        Re: Cannia australis and "Pseudechis".....more WW 05/06/02 (5)
        
        Re: Cannia australis and "Pseudechis".....more Scott Eipper 05/07/02 (4)
        
        Re: Cannia australis and "Pseudechis".....more WW 05/07/02 (3)
        
        Yeah....change all right MDNA never came into species/genus accounts.np Scott Eipper 05/08/02 (2)
        
        Happy Birthday Scott! n/p WW 05/08/02 (1)
        
        Got the paper thanks. Scott Eipper 05/14/02 (0)
        
        "Interesting", P. colletti, didn't know they grew to such large Derek K. 05/06/02 (0)

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: : Derek, : : The name Demansia atra is actually invalid. It was previously used however D. vestigiata is now the current name. (See for eg A. Greer's Biology and evolution of Australian Snakes) : Evidently I missed this taxon change, however, appreciate the update! : : Black Whip Snake...while general usage is not a great name....due to variance in colour...some are black...see photo in Rick Shine's Australian Snakes - Natural History, then look at a pic in Mirtschin's Book. : I read somewhere the common names lesser and greater Black Whip Snakes, not sure which reference, appeared to be two different species?. By the way, which Mirtschin's book? I only have Dangerous Snakes of Australia by Mirtschin. Curious??? : Cheers, : Derek K. : : : : While not recorded in Demansia vestigiata rapid colour change has also been reported on the genus. : : : : Regards, : : Scott Eipper

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