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Posted by Sue2 on December 05, 2000 at 11:37:01:
In Reply to: your point being.... posted by Souella on December 04, 2000 at 22:09:24:
I guess my point was you had mentioned that you obtained a “farm raised” iguana. The vast majority of iguanas are all “farm raised”. I posted the link so that you and others could read that farmed iguanas is not necessary what you think it is (farm versus wild caught). Iguana farms are not nicely painted red building with rolling pastures and a farm hand to tend to their every need. Imagine a puppy mill with lizards. Unfortunately, “farms” is where the pet industry obtains their iguanas (of course there are exceptions to this). Souella, please realize that there are far more people who visit this forum that only read the posts then those who read and post.
I’ve read and re-read all of the posts regarding “wish me luck with hatchling rescue…” When HD posted his first response, he did not name call you, but tried to provide some education. Again, to EVERYONE out there reading the forum, not just you. If you’d take a moment and go back and re-read all of the posts, you became very very defensive from the get go. It’s a shame. You personally attack me in your post above. That was really uncalled for, but I’ll let it go. Just a suggestion, but if you weren’t so defensive or snippy in your posts, you might just get friendlier responses (catch more flies with honey).
I can understand your frustration as to here you thought you had done a good deed and you did not receive the response you had hoped for. Its nothing personal. No one on this forum “knows” you, but you act like we all were ganging up on you. Not true. The intent was to educate all those who read the forum on what happens when you think you are “rescuing” an iguana from pet store, herp show, whatever (those who try and sell iguanas to make money). It’s the big picture that people need to be educated on. Right or wrong, you acted with your heart when you took the injured iguana in. I responded to your questions under my post titled “Mrs. High and Mighty”. In fact, I left your original questions under my post and answered them. Go back and read your response to me. You had asked, and I quote, “How long did it take for the ig to heal as I am not sure how long to keep the splint on.” I provided you with a response and your comment back to me was quite snippy “ “I am aware of these things, I am not a newbie.”). You asked, I answered, you snapped. I’m confused, but if you knew the answer, why did you ask?
Also, you mentioned that you were angered at the responses you received (no hugs, pat on the back, etc.), but others with iglets post pics and whatnot and they get the response you were seeking. I think I counted 5 out of 7 (myself included) people responding to your original post, wished you good luck with your iguanas. I scrolled down a ways on the forum this morning and for the most part, those of us who do iguana rescue and rehab, do not usually respond. Unfortunately, the average first time iguana owner does not know that there is an iguana problem. With this forum, we try to also educate the public with the facts. Since you have stated numerous times that you are not a novice, maybe we expected too much from you. Its one thing to be uneducated about the plight of iguanas, but another thing if you know about it and choose to do nothing (whether in a small way or a big way).
For you or anyone else out there that is just bent on getting an iglet, as Lexi stated, rescue groups do get in iglets from time to time. All you would have had to do is ask for help on who to contact. Some rescue groups will ship iguanas (and other herps). If you’re patient enough, sooner or later an iglet will turn up through a rescue group.
You asked why do we have iguanas. Same as many others. Our daughter wanted one, so we took in an adult female. Why do we do rescue? Because the animal shelters either euthanize them or flat out refuse to take them in. Are we a dumping ground? Nope. I’ll be honest with you. We do pick and choose which iguanas we will accept (those that are adoptable). We also require that the person surrendering the iguana not only give up ALL supplies (cage, lights, etc.), but they must also pay a surrender fee (helps defray the cost of the vet visit). No exceptions. Why? A couple of reasons. One, if the cage is usable, we use it. By requiring that the iguana’s supplies be handed over, it prevents the owner from having an empty cage around the house and them feeling the need to put something in it. Also, when we find a suitable home, the iguana is adopted out at no charge and in some cases, the cage and supplies are also given to the new owner.
I really wish I could personally take you around with us when we do iguana education. Not only do I mention that iguanas do not make good pets for children, I go so far as to stating that “I” feel that they shouldn’t be sold as pets. Yes, I take along my bearded dragon as an example of a better pet lizard to have (will probably start using our chuckwalla as an example too) and I have also invited snake rescue people to bring an example of a “good” pet snake (i.e. cornsnake) versus a “bad” pet snake (python) for prospective (new) reptile owners.
Bottom line is Souella, what started out as educational responses to your original posts, turned into personal attacks by you. We all need to act like the adults that we are.
Again, I wish you luck with your 2 new iglets.
Sue2
PS: If you wish to keep this debate or personal attacks against me, please feel free to email me at the above address. All I ask is that you title your email "Iguanas" so that I not delete it in error.
