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Re: Panther hybrids


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Posted by Ivan on April 18, 2003 at 20:24:37:

In Reply to: Re: Panther hybrids posted by StevetheVeiled on April 18, 2003 at 18:04:45:

The right term should be "crossed locale" as they are not true hybrids. A hybrid is a cross between two different species and all panthers are the same species. Each locale has different coloration and thus a baby from parents of different locales should be called a crossed-locale panther. The term hybrid is just easier to use but very inaccurate.
As far as purposely crossing the locales, it is something that most breeders will not recommend due to the fact that you lose the "typical" look of the specific locality. I will not do it purposely (meaning that I have full knowledge that male and female are of different locales) since it is always good to attempt getting a little copy of the father. If you want to breed panthers just for the colors and have no interest in keeping the locales pure then you can go ahead since crossed-locale panthers tend to be very colorful.
Each locale is very consistent as far as their coloration and pattern which suggests that there is some way that they keep pure in nature. The limits of the locales might have some degree of crossing but it has not been proven.
Someone else posted that ambilobe could be a crossed locale just because of the vast array of colors. Well, even though I doubt it, it can't be ruled out. I doubt it just because there has been a lot of color variations imported from Ambilobe yet when the animals come in, they are pretty consistent in what they look like as far as fitting a pattern. Ambilobe is sandwiched between "Diego Suarez" and Ambanja but is a big area that yields too much variation for the animals to be crossed locale (but this is again my opinion). In the case of crossed locale animals, you rarely find 2 that look alike to the degree that WC animals do.
This is my opinion based on years dealing with chameleons both on the hobby level and the medicine level. There is no right or wrong answer as far as breeding different panther locales so it is up to you to decide what your goals are.

Best wishes,
Ivan




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