Re: The Black Copper Ratsnake...

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Posted by Terry Cox on September 21, 2001 at 04:56:40:

In Reply to: Re: The Black Copper Ratsnake... posted by Patrick Alexander on September 20, 2001 at 20:37:06:

: : : I'm not keen on them. I researched them when some were offered to me. They come from Southeast Asia. They are rare in the hobby. It's basically a trinket snake.

: : They act/look a bit like radiata to me, but I have seen helena act a lot like radiata (or vice versa).

: My personal theory, unsupported by much of anything other than simple external appearance, really, is that E. radiata, E. helena, E. erythrura, E. subradiata, and E. flavolineata will all be split off into their own happy little genus once a good taxonomist gets around to really trying to figure out what's going on with Asian `Elaphe'.

: Oh, and now that I think of it, I'd been meaning to ask something about E. radiata, so I'll go post that in another thread, now...

: Patrick Alexander

I agree, Pat. Not only do I think that this group is related, but that it probably forms a phylogenetic line leading to some others, such as Hodgson's ratsnakes, and the Persian rats :)

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: : : : I'm not keen on them. I researched them when some were offered to me. They come from Southeast Asia. They are rare in the hobby. It's basically a trinket snake. : : : They act/look a bit like radiata to me, but I have seen helena act a lot like radiata (or vice versa). : : My personal theory, unsupported by much of anything other than simple external appearance, really, is that E. radiata, E. helena, E. erythrura, E. subradiata, and E. flavolineata will all be split off into their own happy little genus once a good taxonomist gets around to really trying to figure out what's going on with Asian `Elaphe'. : : Oh, and now that I think of it, I'd been meaning to ask something about E. radiata, so I'll go post that in another thread, now... : : Patrick Alexander : I agree, Pat. Not only do I think that this group is related, but that it probably forms a phylogenetic line leading to some others, such as Hodgson's ratsnakes, and the Persian rats :)

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