Re: Good Point... N/P.

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Posted by Rex on October 01, 2001 at 17:35:48:

In Reply to: Re: Good Point... N/P. posted by Terry Cox on September 23, 2001 at 11:24:01:

: : : : : This kinda confirms what I thought - I've got both helena and radiata and thought these guys looked very similar both in their markings, dimensions and general behaviour.

: : : : : I like this group a lot. Is there any close connection with the taeniura group as these guys often seem like somewhat smaller versions of e.t spp?

: : : : : I have a ridleyi which displays many of the same defensive postures as my radiata. S- bend neck, neckspreading and wide open mouth.

: : : : : Thanks for the input.

: : :
: : : : I think there's probably some connection between taeniura and the radiata group, but not as close as the sps. in the radiata group are to each other. That's just my opinion. I think someday the radiata sps complex will probably get a different genus name, then it's a contest to see if taeniura will go with them, stay in Elaphe, or get a genus of its own :)

: : : : PS: Check out the way helena and radiata can inflate their necks. This is what Gonyosoma oxycephala does too, and this species has a special air sack which it inflates. I wonder if radiata and helena have that air sack adaptation??

: :
: : Hey ,

: : Just to let you know, some of the work has been done, I'll have more details on our site soon as I can get it together, but the new Genus name for helena, radiata, subradiata , flavolineata and erythrura is Coelognathus.They are no longer in the Genus Elaphe, but taeniura remains.
: : E. scalaris returns to Rhinechis scalaris
: : and E. rufodorsata becomes Ocatochus rufodorsata.

: : Rex
: : www.ratsnakes.com

: Thanks, Rex. Where'd ya get this scoop from? This is big news!

Terry,,,, Did you get my Email ? I sent you one, but no reply from you ??
Rex

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: : : : : : This kinda confirms what I thought - I've got both helena and radiata and thought these guys looked very similar both in their markings, dimensions and general behaviour. : : : : : : I like this group a lot. Is there any close connection with the taeniura group as these guys often seem like somewhat smaller versions of e.t spp? : : : : : : I have a ridleyi which displays many of the same defensive postures as my radiata. S- bend neck, neckspreading and wide open mouth. : : : : : : Thanks for the input. : : : : : : : : : I think there's probably some connection between taeniura and the radiata group, but not as close as the sps. in the radiata group are to each other. That's just my opinion. I think someday the radiata sps complex will probably get a different genus name, then it's a contest to see if taeniura will go with them, stay in Elaphe, or get a genus of its own :) : : : : : PS: Check out the way helena and radiata can inflate their necks. This is what Gonyosoma oxycephala does too, and this species has a special air sack which it inflates. I wonder if radiata and helena have that air sack adaptation?? : : : : : : Hey , : : : Just to let you know, some of the work has been done, I'll have more details on our site soon as I can get it together, but the new Genus name for helena, radiata, subradiata , flavolineata and erythrura is Coelognathus.They are no longer in the Genus Elaphe, but taeniura remains. : : : E. scalaris returns to Rhinechis scalaris : : : and E. rufodorsata becomes Ocatochus rufodorsata. : : : Rex : : : www.ratsnakes.com : : : Thanks, Rex. Where'd ya get this scoop from? This is big news! : : Terry,,,, Did you get my Email ? I sent you one, but no reply from you ?? : Rex

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