Community or Chaos?...

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Posted by Gerry Binczik on September 14, 2001 at 09:30:42:

In Reply to: Re: To all Ratsnake Forum users... posted by wk on September 14, 2001 at 01:24:03:

Ordinarily I don't respond to anonymous posters, but "wk's" perception may be shared by enough forum users (I hope not!) to warrant it:

"wk", this isn't my forum, and it isn't yours. It is a commercial enterprise owned and operated by a private individual. He certainly has the right to make any rules he wants to concerning its use (this is decidedly NOT a forum for free speech), and he has done so. I and all other users have the right to report abuse of those rules to help him in enforcing them; that's why he has the "Report Forum Abuse" link at the top of every forum page.

Moreover, many if not most users likely feel that we have more than a right to complain about abuse, but also an obligation to do so. We here are all members of a sort of community, and as such, SOME off-topic chatter is to be expected, maybe even desired. Perhaps this thought is at the heart of your post. But all communities must also have some rules if they are to continue functioning rather than degrade into chaos, and it is the right and obligation of all members of that community to try to encourage or - in the face of egregious abuse such as that which prompted my warning - force adherence to those rules.

Finally, neither I nor anyone else need your or any other user's permission or good wishes in order to carry out that right and obligation. I filed my first complaint this morning, about the continuing abuse by "T.C." and "Nyx" since I posted my warning. I will continue to complain until the abuse stops completely.

Again, I urge other forum users to do likewise.

I've made my position clear on this issue, and won't engage in any further debate.

Gerry

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: Ordinarily I don't respond to anonymous posters, but "wk's" perception may be shared by enough forum users (I hope not!) to warrant it: : "wk", this isn't my forum, and it isn't yours. It is a commercial enterprise owned and operated by a private individual. He certainly has the right to make any rules he wants to concerning its use (this is decidedly NOT a forum for free speech), and he has done so. I and all other users have the right to report abuse of those rules to help him in enforcing them; that's why he has the "Report Forum Abuse" link at the top of every forum page. : Moreover, many if not most users likely feel that we have more than a right to complain about abuse, but also an obligation to do so. We here are all members of a sort of community, and as such, SOME off-topic chatter is to be expected, maybe even desired. Perhaps this thought is at the heart of your post. But all communities must also have some rules if they are to continue functioning rather than degrade into chaos, and it is the right and obligation of all members of that community to try to encourage or - in the face of egregious abuse such as that which prompted my warning - force adherence to those rules. : Finally, neither I nor anyone else need your or any other user's permission or good wishes in order to carry out that right and obligation. I filed my first complaint this morning, about the continuing abuse by "T.C." and "Nyx" since I posted my warning. I will continue to complain until the abuse stops completely. : Again, I urge other forum users to do likewise. : I've made my position clear on this issue, and won't engage in any further debate. : Gerry

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