Re: Elaphe lineata - Check out Taxonomy Forum

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Posted by REX on April 14, 2000 at 23:01:48:

In Reply to: Elaphe lineata - Check out Taxonomy Forum posted by Sacha Korell on April 08, 2000 at 16:39:35:

: What are the opinions out there in "ratsnake land"? Is the species status justified? Or should it rather be E. longissima lineata?

: I'm just a hobbyist (not a biologist or taxonomist), and like to know what you think.

: Best regards,

: Sacha

Hey Guys,,,
While we're on this E. longissima thing,, what about E. longissima ssp., Persian Aesculapian Snake, listed on Page 168 of Klaus's Book .
This is not E. persica, but a newly "discovered snake", that " closely corresponds with the characteristics of E. l. romano."
I wonder how this fits into the picture ?

Systematic Relationships,,
I believe Klaus is pretty much right-on in his interpretation,(page 35), and I agree with him on most all points.
Now, I'm not a professional, but I've been interested and studying this Genus for many years and like many others out there know that this Genus needs a lot of revision. It's hard to believe that it didn't start with E. rufodorsata ! I think we all agree that shouldn't been the first to go.
Fortunate for us there are a couple of people, "professionals", that are currently working on this problem. It will be VERY interesting to see their results and I look forward to it !

Rex

Ratsnakes of the Genus Elaphe

Schulz, Klaus-Deiter,"A Monograph of the Colubrid Snakes of the Genus Elaphe"
Koeltz Scientific Books, 1996

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Elaphe taxonomy and the E. longissima question.....(long) Terry 04/15/00 (2)
- Re: Elaphe taxonomy and the E. longissima question.....(long) Rex 04/16/00 (1)
  - The question of how we look at "relatedness".......... Terry 04/16/00 (0)

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: : What are the opinions out there in "ratsnake land"? Is the species status justified? Or should it rather be E. longissima lineata? : : I'm just a hobbyist (not a biologist or taxonomist), and like to know what you think. : : Best regards, : : Sacha : : Hey Guys,,, : While we're on this E. longissima thing,, what about E. longissima ssp., Persian Aesculapian Snake, listed on Page 168 of Klaus's Book . : This is not E. persica, but a newly "discovered snake", that " closely corresponds with the characteristics of E. l. romano." : I wonder how this fits into the picture ? : Systematic Relationships,, : I believe Klaus is pretty much right-on in his interpretation,(page 35), and I agree with him on most all points. : Now, I'm not a professional, but I've been interested and studying this Genus for many years and like many others out there know that this Genus needs a lot of revision. It's hard to believe that it didn't start with E. rufodorsata ! I think we all agree that shouldn't been the first to go. : Fortunate for us there are a couple of people, "professionals", that are currently working on this problem. It will be VERY interesting to see their results and I look forward to it ! : Rex : Ratsnakes of the Genus Elaphe : Schulz, Klaus-Deiter,"A Monograph of the Colubrid Snakes of the Genus Elaphe" : Koeltz Scientific Books, 1996

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