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What would really help Horned Lizards.


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Posted by Jeff Judd on May 07, 2003 at 13:11:26:

In Reply to: Question for Lester&Jeff posted by Cable_Hogue on May 07, 2003 at 10:00:46:

:It seems fairly obvious to me anyways that Lester has his own agenda. We call it the FUD factor in my line of work. Fear, uncertainty and doubt. Very useful if you want to keep people from some activity. Less, you don't work for the state but you are paid by grants, right? It would be a personal conflict of interest if there were no endangerment issues regarding HL's. I am not saying that these little guys shouldn't be cared for and managed. You just seem to me to go a bit to the extreme. My two cents.

:Cheers Jeff


Cheers to you to Cable,
I agree, most people who push endangerment laws do it because it provides more money to go play scientist. It does nothing to save the horned lizards. Take the flat-tailed horned lizard into consideration. Instead of wasting thousands of dollars appeal after appeal to try and list it as endangered the money could have been used in conjunction with money from the nature conservancy and other organiztions and BLM to purchase land for preserves. Their are three strongholds for Flat-tails in CA and one in AR, acerage in all these areas should be bought and fenced creating flat-tail preserves. This would ensure the land could never be developed and disturbed.This is atacking the problem where it needs to be attacked. Passing useless laws for personal agendas does nothing for the horned lizards.Jeff



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