Re: I don't think that's correct. Can you site references?

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Posted by jade on July 10, 2000 at 16:53:34:

In Reply to: I don't think that's correct. Can you site references? posted by henry on July 10, 2000 at 15:55:57:

hi henry, this is a pretty confusing matter, huh? well i got the bufo being a true toad and rana being true frogs thing from peterson's field guide, i believe.
as far as a toad being a frog but a frog not always being a toad, i think that is a great definition, but when it comes to common names, things can get hairy. for instance, you have Pipa pipa aka Surinam toad, but according to the traditional definition of a toad, it doesn't fit since they are fully aquatic, and as i recall a bit bumpy, but probably no more bumpy than an american bullfrog (which is a memebr of rana...the true frogs), also, as stated above, there is literature referring to Xenopus laevis as both african clawed frogs and A.C. toads, while they are a smooth skinned aquatic creature in the pipidae family. anyway, as far as common names go, i really don't think there are any hard and fast ways to distinguish between the two (besides the obvious). hope i haven't made things more confusing and i hope i answered your question!

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Re: I don't think that's correct. Can you site references? John Clare 07/10/00 (9)
- Correction of a small mistake John Clare 07/14/00 (0)
- Just noticed one of your posts Henry - I'm glad someone else knew n/m John Clare 07/10/00 (7)
  - You agree, John? henry 07/10/00 (6)
    - they call a horned lizard a horny toad?!? mark 07/10/00 (5)
      - Re: Unless you are from Texas A&M........ EricO 07/12/00 (0)
      - Re: they call a horned lizard a horny toad?!? John Clare 07/11/00 (3)
        
        Re: they call a horned lizard a horny toad?!? henry 07/11/00 (2)
        
        Re: they call a horned lizard a horny toad?!? mark 07/11/00 (1)
        
        Re: EXCUSE ME!?!?!?!?! Shaina 07/14/00 (0)
I understand now. And terms aren't really interchangeable, right? n/p henry 07/10/00 (2)
- Re: I understand now. And terms aren't really interchangeable, right? n/p jade 07/11/00 (1)
  - Frogs and Toads are different indeed, but they are both Anurans. n/p late 07/12/00 (0)

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: hi henry, this is a pretty confusing matter, huh? well i got the bufo being a true toad and rana being true frogs thing from peterson's field guide, i believe. : as far as a toad being a frog but a frog not always being a toad, i think that is a great definition, but when it comes to common names, things can get hairy. for instance, you have Pipa pipa aka Surinam toad, but according to the traditional definition of a toad, it doesn't fit since they are fully aquatic, and as i recall a bit bumpy, but probably no more bumpy than an american bullfrog (which is a memebr of rana...the true frogs), also, as stated above, there is literature referring to Xenopus laevis as both african clawed frogs and A.C. toads, while they are a smooth skinned aquatic creature in the pipidae family. anyway, as far as common names go, i really don't think there are any hard and fast ways to distinguish between the two (besides the obvious). hope i haven't made things more confusing and i hope i answered your question!

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