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that's what I got out of the post too....me to and


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Posted by mchambers on May 14, 2003 at 10:18:18:

In Reply to: that's what I got out of the post too.... posted by san_antonio_tx on May 14, 2003 at 09:14:12:

it reminds me of where I live in Kansas. There are and gotta be some commercial collectors still hitting Kansas for milksnakes heavy and hard. This might also include collared lizards. But where on earth does these animals end up at ? Since I only still get a very few price list , I ask others that DO get price list from companies and both of these metioned animals are lacking on most of these list. Are they trading among each other ( keepers ) for other species from other states ? I DO know of several instances where this has happened in the very recent past. But we are in a dilemma in that ranchers out here are blaming herp people for taking things from old abandon farm houses, old churches, even a little cattle rustling. it's no fun when there is a farmer/rancher having his rifle gunsights on you when all you are doing is lifting some rocks. This has happened several times to me in the flint hills proper. This is a reason that I get a big fat NO on trying to obtain permit to cross over the fence line. Latley though I have been a little more succesful with camera in hand ( since that is all I do now like Joe was saying ) and being 54 yeras old and having a very few people with me.

M Chambers

:it sucks (IMHO) to see people collecting like that.

:I used to collect a lot, when I was younger and didn't
:know any better. Now I'm happy to take only pictures. The
:pleasure is in seeing the animals in the wild. Yes, I collect
:a few animals, maybe in the range of a 2 or 3 per year. I
:feel that is sustainable harvest for the animals I collect.
:But then again, if EVERYONE did the same, maybe that small
:number is even too much.

:I certainly understand the point he is trying to make, but
:maybe he is making it from the wrong side of the fence (IMO).





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