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Agree somewhat with Shaky...


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Posted by Kat on August 02, 2002 at 11:24:15:

In Reply to: Agree, but... posted by Shaky on August 02, 2002 at 08:47:12:

I think you need to get a few of the semi-knowledgable people together, and have everyone brainstorm on what morphs are out there that are officially recoginized. Then, everyone in the group needs to write up their own definition of what they think defines the morphs. You then read through all of the definitions of a morph, and combine the good parts, tossing out the bad. (The reason for multiple definitions combined into one is some person might think of something that another does not.) Finally, once you have definitions for all the morphs written up, submit the list of morphs and the definitions to the big 3 just to make sure it's accurate. While I don't think Rich, Kathy, or Don has the time to actually write up the definitions, proofreading them for errors might be a task they could handle.

A few notes... I'm not convinced on the necessity of the price guide part that some people want. I say get the morph part up and working, and maybe later go back and add the price guide part in a future edition. Morphs that do not have an official name (e.g. hypo lavender) should be noted somehow. It may also be a good idea to provide pictures of some of the morphs variations, both as hatchlings and as adults.

I could see the book being done up in 4 sections: Genetic Morphs, Phases and Phase/Genetic Combos, Cornsnake Crosses, and Unknown Morphs.

Further divide the first one up into: Basic Genetic Traits (amel, anery a and b, hypo a and b, lavender, etc), Combined Genetic Traits (snow, ghost, hypo lav, butter, etc), and Bloodred Morphs (for the bloodred morphs, since they -almost- work as genetic traits).

Divide the second one up into: Okeetee Phase and derivatives (with a note about locality), Miami Phase and derivatives, and other phases (like Upper Keys).

The third section should contain info on Creamsicles and Rootbeers, Jungle Corns, and Other Hybrids.

In the fourth, talk about things like piebald and ruby freckled.

Some of the stuff is going to fall into a grey area (like bloodreds and kisatchies). Also, not all of the information is going to be 100% accurate, as we keep finding out more and more about cornsnake genetics as time goes on (and keep uncovering new mysteries), so while it's important that the book have a good handle on what is already known, it's equally important that it be updated regularly as more information and questions surface.


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