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Posted by NateDiggity on April 23, 2003 at 08:06:00:

In Reply to: Re: i have a quick question posted by Derek Benson on April 22, 2003 at 15:57:02:

::::Waxy Monkey Tree Frogs need the same living conditions as a leopard gecko. Dry air with a basking spot of around 90 degrees. WMTF's are not a tropical species. Were the frogs Waxy Monkey Tree Frogs?

::::Either way, I would never put them together!!

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:::uggh.....once again. No they don't have the same enviroment. Waxys do need that temperature and dryer air, but they also have rainy season and need a cooler side of the tank away from the heat. Waxys live in an area in south america....around paraguay called the gran chaco. This area is semi-tropical, semi-desert. It has large trees, shrubs, etc. And waxys don't need sand like leo geckos.

:::Derek

::Leopard Gecko's don't NEED sand, that is totally incorrect!! I've been keeping them longer then tree frogs. They are a very hardy species, you can use paper towels, bark, large gravel, anything that is safe. And they also need a temp. gradient with a cool side of the tank down to anywhere from 70 to 80 degrees. Just like a waxy!! Also, if your keeping leopard geckos with out a humid hide, it is recommendend to spray the enclosure a few times a week. (helps the shed process) You want a rainy season? Mist more often, duhh!!

::I'm not saying mixing these species should be done in any aspect, just that you could have an enclosure set up one way (the way I am describing) and it would suffice for both animals.

::haha- you want shrubs or something? throw in a pothos- which would work with both

::you want branches- throw in some sticks, haha- which would work for both

::this isn't brain surgery ppl- grow some common sense it will help you in the long run

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:Wow, your a frickin idiot. A rainy season is ONE SEASON OF THE YEAR when it rains, stupid. Not misting every week. I happen to know a thing or 2 about leos and sand and paper towels are fine, but gravel and bark cause impaction. Once again, pothos is not a bush. I have been keeping frogs 9 years, and you sound like you are some 8 year old who wants his mommy to do everything. Get a life and go back to your geckos. Hahaha.....Sticks? Have you seen the size of these frogs? You a pure idiot and a disgrace to this hobby. Have a nice day loser.

:Derek

You're the child, name calling, gimme a break. I never said a rain season is misting once a week, I said mist more often, in other words (for the slow learners) for the rainy season mist more often, raising the relative humidity in the air. The droplets coming out of the bottle are just like rain. Most tree frogs have a rainy season and this is an easy way to satisfy that need. Many ppl debate that simulating a raniy isn't a need unless you are breeding. Frogs have been kept by expierienced keepers for many years with out simulating a very wet rain season. For leos, bark and gravel is fine if they are large in size (like I stated). If it is safe, in other words (for the slow learners) if the gecko can't fit in in it's mouth. Lesson: If an animal can't swallow substrate, it can't become impacted by it. That goes for frogs too -haha- common sense comes into play here. Pothos will work just fine, gives the animal some shelter. Sticks (for the slow learners) You must choose the size of your branches carefully, I thought that went with out saying, but obviously not. A good way to tell, is that the stick or branch should be the width of the animal or larger. The only disgrace to the hobby is childish ppl that can't have a regular debate, and when losing, resort to name calling. I don't appriciate being called names. I guarantee if you were here next to me you wouldn't say those things.

Oh-It's funny how your arguement points change ea. post-

First it was the temp. gradient and that leos need sand- which I proved you wrong.

Now its the pothos and sticks- this is getting old.

Now have a good day sir. My work here is done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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How many times do I have to prove you wrong? Derek Benson 04/23/03 (1)
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