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Posted by Richard Mastenbroek on March 27, 2002 at 02:13:42:

In Reply to: Re: Will it still be a circus without a clown? posted by Scott Thomson on March 27, 2002 at 00:20:26:

What you guys say is rigth, as for me I'm not a scientist but just a amateur snake keeper, I read the posts on this forum to learn something and ask questions when I think that is necessary. And then I got a post from Raymond Hoser that says that my snakes look ill or in exact words in poor condition, I don't think that this is the thing he needs to do, I always take good care for my aniamls and when someone picks on them I get really pissed off. It's true that i place BIG QUESTION MARKS behind Hosers work but this is not a reason to attack my snakes or is it?

I just hope to learn more from real scientists like Wolfgang W�ster and other reliable people, I don't need to read the doubtfull papers Hoser and frieds are posting here on the forum. I will still keep my amateur eyes on these papers to make up my own mind,just as I said before in a previous post I don't believe you can write scientific papers on taxonomy when you have never seen a live or dead specimen of the species you want to describe.

With Best Regards,

Richard Mastenbroek (Mr Taipan)

: Ray,

: this is exactly what I tried, in vain, to point out to you. I tried to do it politely. You cannot take these criticisms personally because as soon as you do, and start attcking people they will attack back. Science is all about critical review of other peoples (and hopefully your own) work.

: I have probably criticised to some degree every persons work I have read, but I never attack the person. I am well aware (or at least hope) that the writer has attempted to do things right, I know I have made mistakes in my work. Some have been corrected by others, some have been corrected by me. If someone comes up with some good evidence that I am wrong I accept it. Or I refute it. But thats the point I refute their evidence not them.

: I mean what possible scientific benefit do we get from some of the dorrogatory dog fights that appear in these lists. Just how do these species benefit from that. Its science not politics.

: Cheers, Scott

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: What you guys say is rigth, as for me I'm not a scientist but just a amateur snake keeper, I read the posts on this forum to learn something and ask questions when I think that is necessary. And then I got a post from Raymond Hoser that says that my snakes look ill or in exact words in poor condition, I don't think that this is the thing he needs to do, I always take good care for my aniamls and when someone picks on them I get really pissed off. It's true that i place BIG QUESTION MARKS behind Hosers work but this is not a reason to attack my snakes or is it? : I just hope to learn more from real scientists like Wolfgang W�ster and other reliable people, I don't need to read the doubtfull papers Hoser and frieds are posting here on the forum. I will still keep my amateur eyes on these papers to make up my own mind,just as I said before in a previous post I don't believe you can write scientific papers on taxonomy when you have never seen a live or dead specimen of the species you want to describe. : With Best Regards, : Richard Mastenbroek (Mr Taipan) : : Ray, : : this is exactly what I tried, in vain, to point out to you. I tried to do it politely. You cannot take these criticisms personally because as soon as you do, and start attcking people they will attack back. Science is all about critical review of other peoples (and hopefully your own) work. : : I have probably criticised to some degree every persons work I have read, but I never attack the person. I am well aware (or at least hope) that the writer has attempted to do things right, I know I have made mistakes in my work. Some have been corrected by others, some have been corrected by me. If someone comes up with some good evidence that I am wrong I accept it. Or I refute it. But thats the point I refute their evidence not them. : : I mean what possible scientific benefit do we get from some of the dorrogatory dog fights that appear in these lists. Just how do these species benefit from that. Its science not politics. : : Cheers, Scott

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