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Posted by G Quirk on October 25, 2002 at 15:16:21:
In Reply to: Re: Do you guys give your crested's regular baths? posted by RHACO-JACKO on October 25, 2002 at 12:36:48:
Actual better breeding/health.The problem is and has been with alot of "Island" reptiles is that there is a big difference between say 80% humidity on a smaller island in the middle of the ocean than say rainforest in the interior of New Guinea for example.I'm by no means a scientist, so in lay mans terms. On a smaller island the humidity is most affected by the moisture content of the prevailing winds(while although high, it appears fairly dry) while in a true interior "Rainforest" it is affected by density of cover and evaporation of rain/standing water(dark, dank)Maybe this explination will shed some light on the point I am making. If not, all I can say is it works, and the man that educated me on Ciliatus breeds and keeps perhaps the largest(actually 2nd largest) collection of geckos in the US-approx. 195species.
::Thanks for the info.I'm not being a pain, but as a breeder of Rhacs I'm always willing to learn new husbandry methods and looking for more info. What do you mean when you said humidity may be a "hinderance". Jack
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::I did say that using the word natural was a mistake.The Germans(where alot of my bloodlines come from directly)agree that that high of humidity is not neccessary and at times my actually be a hinderance.
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:::::Thats great and Im happy that you have maintained healthy cresteds with misting a few times a week, thats what works for you. The norm in my experience and in speaking with very experienced rhacodactylus breeders is that high humidity (daily misting)is a must. I personally mist my enslosures twice a day and three times a day during the warmer months and never had a problem with bacteria nor are my enclosures dank. You must look at your original post and that was what I was contesting. I'm sure your animals are healthy and are prolific breeders and what you do works (I'm not arguing your husbandry methods). My response was based on your initial comment in regards to humidity in its natural setting, which is incorrect. My point was honest criticism, but I guess you took it the wrong way. Speak to you soon. Jack
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::::#1 my info comes from years and generations of healthly Crested Geckos.The only mistake in my post was the use of the word natural. In captivity with the types of enclosures most often used, if a person were to try to maintain 70%-80% humidity 24hrs a day in the enclosure, it would be a dank,bacteria laden cage that would cause respitory and skin problems( you see the average keeper does not have an ocean breeze to keep humidity up and wetness down like lets say the "Isle of Pines")Crested are most easily kept and breed in my experiance with 30%-40% room humidity with misting a few times a week and plenty of well hydrated crickets and babyfood/yogurt.The information I give then must work/be true for I have plenty of healthy breeders/babies and so do the people that have purchased and followed the same regime for the past 6 years.My biggest point is that Cresteds are geckos, they are not dogs or cats and do not need baths.
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::::I'm not sure where your getting your info., but cresteds do require a relative high humidity. On New Caledonia the humidity will vary from 70-80% throughout the year (thats pretty high in my book) with temperatures that range from 67-79F throughout the year. So please, before you post do some research and get the facts straight. Alot of the people that post here do so for a reason and would like correct information. The information you post may or may not be used. If bad information is taken under consideration by a new crested owner, the cresdted will bare the consequence. So please do your research or don't reply. Sorry if my post comes off strong, but bad info. is not good for anyone. Were all trying to learn from each other.Jack
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:::::::Do you guys give your crested's regular baths?
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::::::Absolutely not, what would the gain be? They are not a dog/cat. There natural environment is not that humid either.
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