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Re: more on Pantherophis....


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Posted by Ophidiophile on January 26, 2003 at 16:43:59:

In Reply to: more on Pantherophis.... posted by Phil Peak on January 26, 2003 at 10:48:28:

Regardless of what names hobbyists use (after all, GTPs are still called "Chondros" even though there is no longer a valid genus called "Chondropython"!), I am happy to see American rat snakes finally separated from Asian ones. Just the fact that American Rat Snakes can and do hybridize with Pituophis and Lampropeltis (and show hybrid vigor rather than depressed fecundity) but have never and probably cannot hybridize with Asian Rat Snakes, illustrates the problem with referring to them all as "Elaphe." This is all rather strange for me to be saying as I am normally quite a taxonomic "lumper" but in this case, lumping is clearly unjustified.
Here's to "Pantherophis" and whatever other genera get constructed for New World Rat Snakes!




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