Re: A QUESTION of GREENS

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Posted by Iguanamomma on February 05, 2000 at 22:07:17:

In Reply to: A QUESTION of GREENS posted by xta on February 05, 2000 at 13:36:54:

Mulder & Scully have X-Files; I have Ig-Files *grin* This comes from Anne Marsden whom you may not have heard of & will just have to take it from me that she's worth listening to ;o)

Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999
From: "Anne Marsden"
Subject: RE: Bok Choy and other question
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:28:49 -0400>
From: "K F" Subject: Bok Choy and other question
>> My vet told me to include Chinese Cabbage in my iguana's diet, because it has a high Ca to Phosphorus ratio (2:1> about). What I was wondering is if Chinese Cabbage and Bok Choy are the same thing?(snip)>

-Kristin and Inu Unfortunately, 'chinese cabbage' is about the most difficult question
you could ask. There are about 15 names, including won bok, bok choy and pe-tsui. Generally, I would classify all of them as 'cabbage' and bear in mind that they contain goitrogens. This isn't a problem as long as you are feeding a good mix of non-cabbage leaves. If you think a balanced diet is kale, collard, mustard greens, won bok and pe-tsui, you are likely to get problems (all are cabbage types). You would need to make sure you get a variety - including say, escarole and dandelion and definitely avoiding root brassicas (turnip, swedes, radishes) and flowering brassicas (broccoli, cauliflower, rapini). Have a look at http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/Food/RelatedPlantList.html for some other brassicas. It does not even begin to go into the Asian classification,and I don't have that URL in my bookmarks. In sum, cabbages are excellent in some areas ( e.g. Ca:P) but may cause thyroid problems in excess. What's excess? I dunno, but knowing that all those plants, along with Brussel sprout, shu tsoi, calabrese, cress and arugula are brassicas will help you vary your diet. Western man domesticated *a lot* of cabbages. Iguanas live in central America and really didn't evolve to eat such a proportion of cabbages.Anne M
*******

My own humble opinion is to use these "lightly" and infrequently making sure you have enuf of the "good" to outweight the "bad." Hope this helped you some rather than muddy the waters more!

glenda

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: Mulder & Scully have X-Files; I have Ig-Files *grin* This comes from Anne Marsden whom you may not have heard of & will just have to take it from me that she's worth listening to ;o) : Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 : From: "Anne Marsden" <amarsden@home.com> : Subject: RE: Bok Choy and other question : Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:28:49 -0400> : From: "K F" Subject: Bok Choy and other question : >> My vet told me to include Chinese Cabbage in my iguana's diet, because it has a high Ca to Phosphorus ratio (2:1> about). What I was wondering is if Chinese Cabbage and Bok Choy are the same thing?(snip)> : -Kristin and Inu Unfortunately, 'chinese cabbage' is about the most difficult question : you could ask. There are about 15 names, including won bok, bok choy and pe-tsui. Generally, I would classify all of them as 'cabbage' and bear in mind that they contain goitrogens. This isn't a problem as long as you are feeding a good mix of non-cabbage leaves. If you think a balanced diet is kale, collard, mustard greens, won bok and pe-tsui, you are likely to get problems (all are cabbage types). You would need to make sure you get a variety - including say, escarole and dandelion and definitely avoiding root brassicas (turnip, swedes, radishes) and flowering brassicas (broccoli, cauliflower, rapini). Have a look at http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/Food/RelatedPlantList.html for some other brassicas. It does not even begin to go into the Asian classification,and I don't have that URL in my bookmarks. In sum, cabbages are excellent in some areas ( e.g. Ca:P) but may cause thyroid problems in excess. What's excess? I dunno, but knowing that all those plants, along with Brussel sprout, shu tsoi, calabrese, cress and arugula are brassicas will help you vary your diet. Western man domesticated *a lot* of cabbages. Iguanas live in central America and really didn't evolve to eat such a proportion of cabbages.Anne M : ******* : My own humble opinion is to use these "lightly" and infrequently making sure you have enuf of the "good" to outweight the "bad." Hope this helped you some rather than muddy the waters more! : glenda

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