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Posted by kerry on July 05, 2002 at 00:11:31:

In Reply to: Neonates or yearings look cinctum but will eventually...... posted by Jeff on July 04, 2002 at 23:04:12:

......If all I had to work with was this lizard and no loacality data I would call it "cinctum" all the way! There are just too many classic cinctum indicators on this specimen. Jeff is correct that often the two pattern morphs occur "side by side", and even with in the same clutch with some of the neonates experiencing the slow onteogenic change while others don't. I would also like to add that I have personally seen Gilas with genetic roots from so. AZ and Sonora that are extremely reticulated as hatchlings, experiencing little or no pattern change as they mature as well. One could argue that there is no easy answer when it comes to morphology and the designation of subspecies... assuming there is some valid reason for such a division.




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