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Re: And I thought we were bad.............


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Posted by ag on January 16, 2002 at 15:05:20:

In Reply to: And I thought we were bad............. posted by Kevin Earley on January 16, 2002 at 13:01:28:

: Boy I thought we were "of different opinions" when it came to gila monster subspecies, you beaded keepers are just as "opinionated"(LOL) :)

You're telling me! I thought it was pretty cut and dry, but there is just as much controversy over horridum subspecies! I've seen Herp Nut's three charlesbogerti behind the scenes at Gladys Porter Zoo. I visited San Antonio Zoo (for the first time in YEARS) last month and they had a very similar looking animal on exhibit. I asked Alan Kardon there about beaded subspecies, and he believes only alvarezi can be accuratly "keyed out" by pattern/coloration. Or lack of I should say.

I've looked at a bunch of photographs and seen a few dozen live animals over the last few years (San Antonio has 3 displays and even more offspring in the back!)and the line between exasperatum and horridum can really be blurred! Obviously the pros have their work cut out for them LOL!

Andrew




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