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Posted by oldherper on April 23, 2003 at 00:26:43:
In Reply to: Maybe I'm just odd, but.... posted by snakeguy88 on April 22, 2003 at 19:52:38:
A cross between two subspecies of the same species cannot be a hybrid. They are only geographic races of the same species. They will be intergrades whether they are in captivity or in the wild. No one on here that I saw said there was anything wrong with intergrades. They happen all the time in the wild. This discussion is about HYBRIDS....things that don't happen in the wild, like Lampropeltis sp x Elaphe sp. For that part of it, opinion doesn't matter..it's biological fact, an intergrade is an intergrade and a hybrid is a hybrid. The opinion comes into play when we are discussing the ethics of creating unnatural hybrids in captivity.
:My question...how can you actually be against intergrades? Do you put up signs that say "no mixed breeding between holbrooki and splendida?" Basically intergrades are a natural part of the setting and occur within ONE species...the different subspecies will sometimes breed (IE Lampropeltis getula, Agkistrodon contortix). Hybrid, to me, is anything produced in captivity, even snakes that may intergrade in the wild, as since they are no longer in the wild, they are not intergrades anymore. My opinion. Andy
