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Posted by nathana on April 17, 2003 at 09:01:56:
In Reply to: (more philosophy)reproduction is not happiness? posted by MiserMike on April 16, 2003 at 14:13:41:
Those are interesting observations I never would have thought of. I don't breed turtles for the purpose of selling offspring, only because I'm interested in the process and I enjoy rearing some of the young. In fact, I give away the majority of my hatchlings now (several of the folks who are or were regular posters here have hatchlings of mine). I only give them to folks who will tell me they will not purchase wild caught animals in the future.
I guess this makes my point of view different, and thus my definition of successful different, than other keepers. Some may, like chicken farmers, get better breeding results in more controlled, less natural or roomy environments. I define my success on minimal health problems and maximum activity levels (that don't seem like distressed activity -escape attempts, pacing, etc.). So for MY definition of success, outdoor housing is far and away the biggest factor. For another person's definition, it could be totally different.
Thanks for this observation. I hadn't thought of things this way before... that others might have different goals as turtle keepers than I myself do. I might not be so tempted to snicker at folks who cuddle their turtles after this... if I can reason that their successful keeping is the turtle not struggling while cuddling or something. (hrm... it might be a stretch not to snicker a little to myself).
Do you still keep bees? My father enjoys it alot. I can't get over being kinda creeped out by so many stinging things (that I happen to be allergic to) crawling around in one place. I do like the honey, though.