Re: Protein doesn't cause pyramiding!/ A point to ponder!

Posted by ttrust@globalnet.co.uk on May 21, 2000 at 02:39:19:

In Reply to: Re: Protein doesn't cause pyramiding!/ A point to ponder! posted by Barbara K. on May 20, 2000 at 22:21:46:

: Hi again, Terry!!

: I also have not seen any symptoms of these afflictions in my tortoises despite the use of primate chow as part of their diet... I guess the problem with a discussion like this is we don't want to have any of our living, active, healthy tortoises dissected to find out!!!!

: XXXX B.

You won't. Until it is too late......

Barbara. Simple biology. More protein in = more urea for the kidneys to filter out from the blood. High protein = increased urate output. High urate generation is absolutely linked to a number of extremely serious chronic diseases, including visceral and articular gout. Same in humans too. Read any kindney transplant manual and consider the dietary recommendations therein.

I have photographs of the bladders and kidneys of tortoises reared on "monkey chow" diets of the type you are using, incidentall. Not very pretty pictures.

Andy C. Highfield

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: : Hi again, Terry!! : : I also have not seen any symptoms of these afflictions in my tortoises despite the use of primate chow as part of their diet... I guess the problem with a discussion like this is we don't want to have any of our living, active, healthy tortoises dissected to find out!!!! : : XXXX B. : You won't. Until it is too late...... : Barbara. Simple biology. More protein in = more urea for the kidneys to filter out from the blood. High protein = increased urate output. High urate generation is absolutely linked to a number of extremely serious chronic diseases, including visceral and articular gout. Same in humans too. Read any kindney transplant manual and consider the dietary recommendations therein. : I have photographs of the bladders and kidneys of tortoises reared on "monkey chow" diets of the type you are using, incidentall. Not very pretty pictures. : Andy C. Highfield

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