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Posted by Raymond Hoser on May 15, 2002 at 08:15:18:

In Reply to: Re: Pailsus rossignollii - info by R Mastenbrook. posted by Richard Mastenbroek on May 15, 2002 at 04:41:42:

Thanks for your above posts (2), including putting to rest inferences that I had a hand in building your site.
Moving on, may I say that the answer to the male combat question was as I expected based on your adult snake measurements and what we know of male combat in other snake species.
From the perspective of the diagnosis of the genus Pailsus and separating it from "Pseudechis", this provides yet further unexpected support for the erection of this new genus by myself in 1998, as we know that Male/Male combat is the norm in the Red-bellied Collett's and Blue-Bellied Black snakes - all so-called "Pseudechis" (or Paracedechis W and W)(and I think the "normal" King Brown, ... but I can't off-hand place a reference to the last of these).
(Scott Eipper - if you read this, are you able to find a reference to male combat in Kingi's?)
Richard, your mention of DNA studies was also interesting, but please (if you can) fill in the gaps in terms of where the results were published, materials and methods and the like.
Rest assured, if there emerges compelling evidence to sink the genus "Pailsus" as erected by myself and/or any other evidence to place doubts on other taxonomic moves or judgements by myself, I will be the first to reassess any fixed or pre-existing views I may have.
ALL THE BEST

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    - Agreed... Jeremy 05/16/02 (2)
      - How could I forget... WW 05/16/02 (1)
        
        Hmmm??... Jeremy 05/16/02 (0)
    - Re: Male size and combat Richard Mastenbroek 05/16/02 (2)
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: Thanks for your above posts (2), including putting to rest inferences that I had a hand in building your site. : Moving on, may I say that the answer to the male combat question was as I expected based on your adult snake measurements and what we know of male combat in other snake species. : From the perspective of the diagnosis of the genus Pailsus and separating it from "Pseudechis", this provides yet further unexpected support for the erection of this new genus by myself in 1998, as we know that Male/Male combat is the norm in the Red-bellied Collett's and Blue-Bellied Black snakes - all so-called "Pseudechis" (or Paracedechis W and W)(and I think the "normal" King Brown, ... but I can't off-hand place a reference to the last of these). : (Scott Eipper - if you read this, are you able to find a reference to male combat in Kingi's?) : Richard, your mention of DNA studies was also interesting, but please (if you can) fill in the gaps in terms of where the results were published, materials and methods and the like. : Rest assured, if there emerges compelling evidence to sink the genus "Pailsus" as erected by myself and/or any other evidence to place doubts on other taxonomic moves or judgements by myself, I will be the first to reassess any fixed or pre-existing views I may have. : ALL THE BEST

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