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Posted by Terry Cox on November 30, 2001 at 17:39:23:

In Reply to: Re: E. Carinata posted by meretseger on November 30, 2001 at 12:58:48:

Thanks for the help with the name "Zerkle". Not a name you spell every day.

I had a carinata once. As a matter of fact, I still have him, but he's not spraying me anymore, if ya' know what I mean. They aren't that much like an Elaphe in other ways. They should be reclassified eventually into their own genus. Probably they are most closely related to E. davidi, in China/N. Korea, and E. quadrivirgata, in Japan. I decided not to keep them, as I'm more interested in those that are more closely related in the Elaphe.

Carinata comes mostly from the mtns. of s. China, but also enters N. Vietnam, and a ssps. is found in Taiwan. They are a large and spirited snake which puts me in mind of a Pituophis more than an Elaphe. They also have heavily keeled scales. They can eat other snakes, but I kept mine on mice.

It gets cold in the mtns. in winter, and these snakes need to be brumated to be successful with them. I don't think there should be too much trouble, but probably others have much more info than I do. Their environment is most nearly like that of the Mandarin ratsnake, which requires a fairly cool and lengthy, three or four months, brumation (my opinion).

PIC = Range map of Elaphe mandarina (from Schulz, 1996)...

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: Thanks for the help with the name "Zerkle". Not a name you spell every day. : I had a carinata once. As a matter of fact, I still have him, but he's not spraying me anymore, if ya' know what I mean. They aren't that much like an Elaphe in other ways. They should be reclassified eventually into their own genus. Probably they are most closely related to E. davidi, in China/N. Korea, and E. quadrivirgata, in Japan. I decided not to keep them, as I'm more interested in those that are more closely related in the Elaphe. : Carinata comes mostly from the mtns. of s. China, but also enters N. Vietnam, and a ssps. is found in Taiwan. They are a large and spirited snake which puts me in mind of a Pituophis more than an Elaphe. They also have heavily keeled scales. They can eat other snakes, but I kept mine on mice. : It gets cold in the mtns. in winter, and these snakes need to be brumated to be successful with them. I don't think there should be too much trouble, but probably others have much more info than I do. Their environment is most nearly like that of the Mandarin ratsnake, which requires a fairly cool and lengthy, three or four months, brumation (my opinion). : PIC = Range map of Elaphe mandarina (from Schulz, 1996)... : <img src="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1521832&a=11507540&p=56941733&Sequence=0&res=high">

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