Re: Just did a little shipping/tempeture experiment.. LOOK!!

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Posted by Walt Deptula on August 03, 2001 at 11:18:28:

In Reply to: Just did a little shipping/tempeture experiment.. LOOK!! posted by Adam Block on August 02, 2001 at 21:55:59:

: Okay, I would have bet the farm things would have gone the other way with this. So I guess it's time I eat crow. Here's what I did:

: 1) Standard shipping box lined with one-inch styro. This is heavy-duty styro used in construction, coated on one side with a type of foil.

: 2) Cool hard pack from chest freezer (colder then normal) placed in box.

: 3) Digital thermometer with both in/out temps as well as high low was placed in the box.

: I then placed this box in the back seat of my car with the outside probe hanging out of the sealed box. I left it there for 18 hours, the normal shipping time through the whole hot part of the day (1am-8pm). It was exposed to sun as if it sat on a hot runway for a portion of the time. After just checking the box I was AMAZED at what I found. I would have honestly bet money a snake in the package would have been fine.

: The outside high/low was 145/73.4 degrees.
: The inside high/low was 129/62.6 degrees.

: You can see from that a snake would have never lived. I've yet to have any troubles shipping and I will try this again tonight and change the times to my normal shipping and arrival times (5-6pm and 10-12am). I will also not use the same extreme tempeture; maybe I'll use the trunk of the car.

: What do you all think?
: Adam Block

Hi Adam,

Nice job, we need to get more people thinking constructively like this. Beyond that, we need to try and turn these forums into genuine idea sharing conversations. As you know by our conversations, I had great fears over just this issue (heat) and I'm glad you followed through with your idea of temperature monitoring. Keep us posted on the additional findings.

Thanks,
Walt

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: : : Okay, I would have bet the farm things would have gone the other way with this. So I guess it's time I eat crow. Here's what I did: : : 1) Standard shipping box lined with one-inch styro. This is heavy-duty styro used in construction, coated on one side with a type of foil. : : 2) Cool hard pack from chest freezer (colder then normal) placed in box. : : 3) Digital thermometer with both in/out temps as well as high low was placed in the box. : : I then placed this box in the back seat of my car with the outside probe hanging out of the sealed box. I left it there for 18 hours, the normal shipping time through the whole hot part of the day (1am-8pm). It was exposed to sun as if it sat on a hot runway for a portion of the time. After just checking the box I was AMAZED at what I found. I would have honestly bet money a snake in the package would have been fine. : : The outside high/low was 145/73.4 degrees. : : The inside high/low was 129/62.6 degrees. : : You can see from that a snake would have never lived. I've yet to have any troubles shipping and I will try this again tonight and change the times to my normal shipping and arrival times (5-6pm and 10-12am). I will also not use the same extreme tempeture; maybe I'll use the trunk of the car. : : What do you all think? : : Adam Block : Hi Adam, : Nice job, we need to get more people thinking constructively like this. Beyond that, we need to try and turn these forums into genuine idea sharing conversations. As you know by our conversations, I had great fears over just this issue (heat) and I'm glad you followed through with your idea of temperature monitoring. Keep us posted on the additional findings. : Thanks, : Walt

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