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Posted by Dave Burge on November 12, 1998 at 20:21:20:
In Reply to: Very Serious Flaws With Proposed Guidelines posted by Dave Beamer on November 09, 1998 at 16:09:34:
I should only hope that what happened to my long-agonized reply to your inane post should happen to at least a few of yours. Haven't seen an orphaned "Dave Burge" reply slinking around in your backyard, have you? Well, if you do, shoot it before it multiplies!
The reasoning behind the use of subspecies is that ISIS uses them--and we know who ISIS is--but we don't know who El Beamero is. BTW, before you go dragging academia into this mess, I am an unfortunate victim of the liberal atheist academic environment or, is that a parasite of? And please don't worry us with whether we will lose our credibility; credibility is merely another example of liberal politicospeak (DMS).
Sorry, babe, I didn't realize that JO was proposing that we could go out and rape all sorts of endangered species. I think you might have misread that one, unless John was referring to all of those self-righteous zoo types who are jerking ES out of the habitat for attempted captive propagation efforts. I know almost personally that this was done recently with Crotalus unicolor.
Are you really trying to tell us that herps are NON-mobile. Wow!! You just lost total credibility with that select group of herpers who have had their charges to escape, never to be seen again. So, I think that you are saying that the measly few long-range recaptures in my box turtle field project (=up to SIX miles) still represent a non-mobile species. Wow, that's better than the Sunday morning funnies.
When you start talking about enforcement you're suggesting that herpers are a bunch of lowlife, poaching slimebags. I'd rather think that the vast majority of herpers (SG, RK, & DC, excepted) are reasonable law-abiding folks. Perhaps, we need to educate the herper community that ratting out the herplouse nextdoor is highly productive and may even keep the DNR dogs from your door.
And, finally, Dave, if you REALLY think that enforcement is the topic that has riled most people on THIS forum, I think you are seriously underestimating you own effect.
