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Posted by bottom line....... on July 01, 2002 at 16:57:26:

In Reply to: Re: Get your posted by Bobby on June 30, 2002 at 18:59:46:

: : Gotta rush out and buy from these guys...They MUST know what they're doing!!! :-):-) Poor animals look like they haven't been fed since capture :-( Somebody close to these people go rescue those snakes!!! Carl

: Carl,
: I gave that guy a deposit on the first Cribo he had posted a couple of weeks ago and asked him to hold any others that he got from his importer and I'd buy them all.
: After a about a week he tells me he got 2 more Y/T's in and that they were mine, but they were at the importers place where he was expecting his Indo shipment to arrive "any day soon".
: He says he can save me money on shipping if he sends all 3 together which I agree to as long as it wouldn't be more than a week for them to arrive at the brokers house.
: Needless to say I start getting the run around and all sorts of excuses as to why he doesn't have them in his possesion. I mean NUMEROUS excuses with the best one being " I'm too busy to deal with the Cribos because I have kids"!!!
: Then my calls and e mails aren't being returned so now I have to basically hound this guy to get a response.
: Now I ask him to just send the snake that I paid the deposit on because I'm worried that it isn't getting the care it should be getting while sitting at the brokers place.(as is evident in the pictures) He doesn't want to send it, and gives me more excuses and also says that they are getting the utmost care and that they are feeding on their own!
: I tell him if he can't or won't send the snake I want the deposit back. He says he can't do the deal because he has no time to get to it(work, kids, etc.) and that he only does this for a hobby.
: I get the refund back and let him know if he gets the snakes in his possesion and can actually send them I'd buy them all.
: I knew something was fishy when he said he'd ship the snakes to me and I could pay him when I got them just in case I wasn't happy with them???
: There is alot more to this story, but I think you get the general idea.
: Typical broker B.S. I'm curious if anyone will actually get these Y/T's and what condition will they be in when someone saves them.
: I am going to start building my Eastern Indigo collection so if anyone produces any red face/throats, especially a male, put the word out here and I'll contact you. I think I was substituting with the Cribos anyways, but I'd still like to get 1.1 Y/T's.
: Sorry for the rant, but I hate getting jerked around.
: I'm better now!

: Bobby

bob, here's my guess as to what happened. the dealer got a better offer and sold them out from under you......OR.......they went south so fast that he couldn't sell them to you w/ a clear conscience. [yeah, right. lol.] wc yt's don't seem to have the temperment or staying power of the other subs......they're constantly nervous and this wears on them bigtime. i see blacktails/browntails come in looking equally as bad and bounce right back 95% of the time or more...and quickly . yellowtails don't bounce.....not even a little. most of the ones i've seen coming in have been sitting around for far too long and it's already a foregone conclusion.....you got your money back, consider yourself lucky. i got creamed about 2 years ago by zootec. twice in 4 months!! i finally did get 1.2 but one is ugly, 2 HATE me [and dean]. but they eat! not all of them do. the 3rd is a joy. she is roughly a 2 year old now and the complete opposite of the 2 adults. approaches me to be fed, et al. ???? i have no idea why the big difference in personality except possibly the age disparity at which they were captured. you're guess is as good as mine. but cb yt's will be available soon and that's the way to go w/ this sub if you're not into projects. usually, you gotta spend a lot of money or just be lucky w/ wc yt's. the truth be known, that dealer did you a favor. besdides, i'm quite sure cb yt's will become available in the near future and THEY will be worth the wait and not a fraction of the work.....dan felice

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: : : : Gotta rush out and buy from these guys...They MUST know what they're doing!!! :-):-) Poor animals look like they haven't been fed since capture :-( Somebody close to these people go rescue those snakes!!! Carl : : Carl, : : I gave that guy a deposit on the first Cribo he had posted a couple of weeks ago and asked him to hold any others that he got from his importer and I'd buy them all. : : After a about a week he tells me he got 2 more Y/T's in and that they were mine, but they were at the importers place where he was expecting his Indo shipment to arrive "any day soon". : : He says he can save me money on shipping if he sends all 3 together which I agree to as long as it wouldn't be more than a week for them to arrive at the brokers house. : : Needless to say I start getting the run around and all sorts of excuses as to why he doesn't have them in his possesion. I mean NUMEROUS excuses with the best one being " I'm too busy to deal with the Cribos because I have kids"!!! : : Then my calls and e mails aren't being returned so now I have to basically hound this guy to get a response. : : Now I ask him to just send the snake that I paid the deposit on because I'm worried that it isn't getting the care it should be getting while sitting at the brokers place.(as is evident in the pictures) He doesn't want to send it, and gives me more excuses and also says that they are getting the utmost care and that they are feeding on their own! : : I tell him if he can't or won't send the snake I want the deposit back. He says he can't do the deal because he has no time to get to it(work, kids, etc.) and that he only does this for a hobby. : : I get the refund back and let him know if he gets the snakes in his possesion and can actually send them I'd buy them all. : : I knew something was fishy when he said he'd ship the snakes to me and I could pay him when I got them just in case I wasn't happy with them??? : : There is alot more to this story, but I think you get the general idea. : : Typical broker B.S. I'm curious if anyone will actually get these Y/T's and what condition will they be in when someone saves them. : : I am going to start building my Eastern Indigo collection so if anyone produces any red face/throats, especially a male, put the word out here and I'll contact you. I think I was substituting with the Cribos anyways, but I'd still like to get 1.1 Y/T's. : : Sorry for the rant, but I hate getting jerked around. : : I'm better now! : : Bobby : bob, here's my guess as to what happened. the dealer got a better offer and sold them out from under you......OR.......they went south so fast that he couldn't sell them to you w/ a clear conscience. [yeah, right. lol.] wc yt's don't seem to have the temperment or staying power of the other subs......they're constantly nervous and this wears on them bigtime. i see blacktails/browntails come in looking equally as bad and bounce right back 95% of the time or more...and quickly . yellowtails don't bounce.....not even a little. most of the ones i've seen coming in have been sitting around for far too long and it's already a foregone conclusion.....you got your money back, consider yourself lucky. i got creamed about 2 years ago by zootec. twice in 4 months!! i finally did get 1.2 but one is ugly, 2 HATE me [and dean]. but they eat! not all of them do. the 3rd is a joy. she is roughly a 2 year old now and the complete opposite of the 2 adults. approaches me to be fed, et al. ???? i have no idea why the big difference in personality except possibly the age disparity at which they were captured. you're guess is as good as mine. but cb yt's will be available soon and that's the way to go w/ this sub if you're not into projects. usually, you gotta spend a lot of money or just be lucky w/ wc yt's. the truth be known, that dealer did you a favor. besdides, i'm quite sure cb yt's will become available in the near future and THEY will be worth the wait and not a fraction of the work.....dan felice

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