Re: Dean....that may be the reason behind the law...but to call it "logic"?

Posted by Fred Albury on April 20, 2001 at 17:19:43:

In Reply to: Dean....that may be the reason behind the law...but to call it "logic"? posted by Dan P on April 20, 2001 at 16:43:53:

: : I'm sure it's quite frustrating if you are a FL resident, but the lodgic is pretty simple.
: : If an individual that lives in Florida is issued a permit to keep Eastern indigos, there is no way to know for sure if the animals he/she has are from captive born stock. Upon aquiring the permits, the keeper could then go collect as many wild indigos as they wanted, and claim they were captive raised animals from his/her stock. Since there is no way to effectively police captive vs. wild caught, it's easiest to simply ban the snakes from captive collections. This is the logic behind the laws.

Dan,

In addition to the point that Dean made concerning the law that is currently enforced concerning E. Indigos, not only could an out of state resident POTENTIALLY go out and collect as many Easterns as he wanted, he could hide them under the guise of each on being THE SAME eastern that he was permitted to legally have, all the while BROKERING the w/c ones. Given the degree of greed in this industry, it is quite easy to imagine people going out and doing this.
In actuality, the laws themselves only protect the snake so much, HABITAT encroachment is what I BELEIVE will take its toll on this majestic serpent and all the other native animals in its delicate ecoysystem.
I must have answered the question of why a Florida resident cant have one &why an out of state resident cant bring one in , at least 5 times this year. I can empathize with residents of Florida who are frustrated that they cant own a native species, but it is really for the snakes own good.
Here in California, we have several variety of beautifull mountain Kingsnakes, ALL of which are protected to some degree for ownership by residents. Some COMPLETELY protected. Yet someone in Iowa can get some from another breeder out of Calif and buy them and breed them and sell them. all day long...
But the law stops people from just picking them up and collecting them for money, and in reality they are allready rare enough without people "harvesting " them from nature. Still it frustrated me. Oh, well, life goes on.

Fred
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: : : I'm sure it's quite frustrating if you are a FL resident, but the lodgic is pretty simple. : : : If an individual that lives in Florida is issued a permit to keep Eastern indigos, there is no way to know for sure if the animals he/she has are from captive born stock. Upon aquiring the permits, the keeper could then go collect as many wild indigos as they wanted, and claim they were captive raised animals from his/her stock. Since there is no way to effectively police captive vs. wild caught, it's easiest to simply ban the snakes from captive collections. This is the logic behind the laws. : : Dan, : In addition to the point that Dean made concerning the law that is currently enforced concerning E. Indigos, not only could an out of state resident POTENTIALLY go out and collect as many Easterns as he wanted, he could hide them under the guise of each on being THE SAME eastern that he was permitted to legally have, all the while BROKERING the w/c ones. Given the degree of greed in this industry, it is quite easy to imagine people going out and doing this. : In actuality, the laws themselves only protect the snake so much, HABITAT encroachment is what I BELEIVE will take its toll on this majestic serpent and all the other native animals in its delicate ecoysystem. : I must have answered the question of why a Florida resident cant have one &why an out of state resident cant bring one in , at least 5 times this year. I can empathize with residents of Florida who are frustrated that they cant own a native species, but it is really for the snakes own good. : Here in California, we have several variety of beautifull mountain Kingsnakes, ALL of which are protected to some degree for ownership by residents. Some COMPLETELY protected. Yet someone in Iowa can get some from another breeder out of Calif and buy them and breed them and sell them. all day long... : But the law stops people from just picking them up and collecting them for money, and in reality they are allready rare enough without people "harvesting " them from nature. Still it frustrated me. Oh, well, life goes on. : Fred : {AZTEC REPTILES}

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