Re: Indigo snake venom?

Posted by VWillisJr on January 07, 2001 at 00:36:05:

In Reply to: Re: Indigo snake venom? posted by Patrick Alexander on January 06, 2001 at 20:56:46:

: : : Hi, today in class we were talking about indigo snakes and racers and racers and my teacher was telling us that indigos and racers produce a mild dangerous siliva does something to your blood.I was wondering is this true? I didnt belive it but I wasnt sure either. So does anyone know? FLHerper

: : I have to answer this question. I don't usually reply to most of the questions but this one needs a reply.
: : I have a little experience with Drymarchons. I have bred and raised every subspecies of Drymarchon known.
: : I have been bitten more times than I care to remember and I have never had a reaction to a bite.
: : The worst case would be an infection due to germs and bacteria in the saliva. There is no venom in Drymarchon.
: : Good luck in your class.

: No offense, but the fact that you haven't been envenomated doesn't mean there isn't any venom. Garter snakes, for instance, are known to have toxic saliva, but, despite the fact that probably a few thousand people a year end up getting bitten by them, there are extremely few documented envenomations (less than 10, I think).
: Patrick Alexander

This is starting to sound like someone is trying to find a back door excuse to justify banning the keeping of reptiles. In my state this year the anti-herp people got a bunch of state legislators to introduce a bill to ban keeping reptiles because of possible salmonela poisoning. It would have passed if the herpers had not shown up to prove that of the several thousand cases last year 2 were reptile related while the rest were food related. The law that was introduced would have banned any animal that could transmit this disease. That would mean that no animal could be kept. Once the facts were presented the bill was dropped and the herpers were thanked by the legislators and assured that they were only trying to protect the public. I guess if you want to classify every allergy, infectious agent, and the possiblity that someone with a morbid fear of snakes may have a heart attack by only seeing one, as being envenomated then go ahead. I suppose that if someone gets mono, a cold, or the flu from kissing we would have to call that being envenomated? Misquitos and honey bees cause more problems in this country than even the four real venomous species, rattlesnakes, coral snakes, cottonmouths, and agcopperheads. A crusade against contaminated meat would help more than one against reptile keepers, who are really the ones learning to protect these creatures. VWillis

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: : : : Hi, today in class we were talking about indigo snakes and racers and racers and my teacher was telling us that indigos and racers produce a mild dangerous siliva does something to your blood.I was wondering is this true? I didnt belive it but I wasnt sure either. So does anyone know? FLHerper : : : I have to answer this question. I don't usually reply to most of the questions but this one needs a reply. : : : I have a little experience with Drymarchons. I have bred and raised every subspecies of Drymarchon known. : : : I have been bitten more times than I care to remember and I have never had a reaction to a bite. : : : The worst case would be an infection due to germs and bacteria in the saliva. There is no venom in Drymarchon. : : : Good luck in your class. : : No offense, but the fact that you haven't been envenomated doesn't mean there isn't any venom. Garter snakes, for instance, are known to have toxic saliva, but, despite the fact that probably a few thousand people a year end up getting bitten by them, there are extremely few documented envenomations (less than 10, I think). : : Patrick Alexander : This is starting to sound like someone is trying to find a back door excuse to justify banning the keeping of reptiles. In my state this year the anti-herp people got a bunch of state legislators to introduce a bill to ban keeping reptiles because of possible salmonela poisoning. It would have passed if the herpers had not shown up to prove that of the several thousand cases last year 2 were reptile related while the rest were food related. The law that was introduced would have banned any animal that could transmit this disease. That would mean that no animal could be kept. Once the facts were presented the bill was dropped and the herpers were thanked by the legislators and assured that they were only trying to protect the public. I guess if you want to classify every allergy, infectious agent, and the possiblity that someone with a morbid fear of snakes may have a heart attack by only seeing one, as being envenomated then go ahead. I suppose that if someone gets mono, a cold, or the flu from kissing we would have to call that being envenomated? Misquitos and honey bees cause more problems in this country than even the four real venomous species, rattlesnakes, coral snakes, cottonmouths, and agcopperheads. A crusade against contaminated meat would help more than one against reptile keepers, who are really the ones learning to protect these creatures. VWillis

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