Re: FOR THOSE OF YOU FEEDING AMPHIBIAN FLAVORED MICE TO EASTERNS

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Posted by Mike on November 08, 1999 at 20:00:15:

In Reply to: Re: FOR THOSE OF YOU FEEDING AMPHIBIAN FLAVORED MICE TO EASTERNS posted by Redman on November 08, 1999 at 07:51:54:

I have a trio of Eastern Hognose that I have had for 3 years, great feeders on mice......no problems so far, and looks like going into hibernation we'll start year number 4 in great shape. Thanks for the info. though as we will start to monitor some of our holdback stock to see how well they do on rodents.

: : I've had several close friends who have produced captive babies from wild-caught adults and did experiments with the offspring. Some were fed young toads or frogs, some fed frog/toad flavored pinks, then mice. (this experiment was done with more than 2 dozen snakes that i know of)

: : results were ALWAYS similar. the amphibian fed snakes did great, as did the rodent feeders FOR A WHILE! within 2 years the rodent eaters always DROPPED DEAD! some while young, some at around 2 yrs, but none made it longer than that! many seemed to be doing great until their sudden early deaths. Seems there is somethin in them thar toads these guys need. Just a word to the wise. Other similar experiences? are there those of you out there who have Easterns eating only rodents for more than 2 years that are doing well??
: I caught a yearling albino eastern in the early 80's and fed it nothing but toads for 2 years. It grew to about 2 feet and was a fat stunning pink critter. The snake changed hands and was fed scented mice and promptly died w/in 2 years. It developed a large stone-like deposit in the kidneys. Yea, I was young and stupid and didn't thing about the bloodline I could have developed through captive breeding. Don't know why I ever let that one get away. Found a melanistic animal at the same location. There were always tons of toads hopping around that locality. BTW it was found in Northern Va in the Burke/Fairfax Station area.

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: I have a trio of Eastern Hognose that I have had for 3 years, great feeders on mice......no problems so far, and looks like going into hibernation we'll start year number 4 in great shape. Thanks for the info. though as we will start to monitor some of our holdback stock to see how well they do on rodents. : : : I've had several close friends who have produced captive babies from wild-caught adults and did experiments with the offspring. Some were fed young toads or frogs, some fed frog/toad flavored pinks, then mice. (this experiment was done with more than 2 dozen snakes that i know of) : : : results were ALWAYS similar. the amphibian fed snakes did great, as did the rodent feeders FOR A WHILE! within 2 years the rodent eaters always DROPPED DEAD! some while young, some at around 2 yrs, but none made it longer than that! many seemed to be doing great until their sudden early deaths. Seems there is somethin in them thar toads these guys need. Just a word to the wise. Other similar experiences? are there those of you out there who have Easterns eating only rodents for more than 2 years that are doing well?? : : I caught a yearling albino eastern in the early 80's and fed it nothing but toads for 2 years. It grew to about 2 feet and was a fat stunning pink critter. The snake changed hands and was fed scented mice and promptly died w/in 2 years. It developed a large stone-like deposit in the kidneys. Yea, I was young and stupid and didn't thing about the bloodline I could have developed through captive breeding. Don't know why I ever let that one get away. Found a melanistic animal at the same location. There were always tons of toads hopping around that locality. BTW it was found in Northern Va in the Burke/Fairfax Station area.

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