Re: And I thought we were bad.............

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Posted by ag on January 16, 2002 at 15:05:20:

In Reply to: And I thought we were bad............. posted by Kevin Earley on January 16, 2002 at 13:01:28:

: Boy I thought we were "of different opinions" when it came to gila monster subspecies, you beaded keepers are just as "opinionated"(LOL) :)

You're telling me! I thought it was pretty cut and dry, but there is just as much controversy over horridum subspecies! I've seen Herp Nut's three charlesbogerti behind the scenes at Gladys Porter Zoo. I visited San Antonio Zoo (for the first time in YEARS) last month and they had a very similar looking animal on exhibit. I asked Alan Kardon there about beaded subspecies, and he believes only alvarezi can be accuratly "keyed out" by pattern/coloration. Or lack of I should say.

I've looked at a bunch of photographs and seen a few dozen live animals over the last few years (San Antonio has 3 displays and even more offspring in the back!)and the line between exasperatum and horridum can really be blurred! Obviously the pros have their work cut out for them LOL!

Andrew

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actually ag, the line between exasperatum and horridum..... steve 01/16/02 (3)
- Re: actually ag, the line between exasperatum and horridum..... ag 01/16/02 (2)
  - ag if you saw enough of them overtime, you could tell the difference steve 01/17/02 (1)
    - Re: ag if you saw enough of them overtime, you could tell the difference John 01/17/02 (0)

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: : Boy I thought we were "of different opinions" when it came to gila monster subspecies, you beaded keepers are just as "opinionated"(LOL) :) : You're telling me! I thought it was pretty cut and dry, but there is just as much controversy over horridum subspecies! I've seen Herp Nut's three charlesbogerti behind the scenes at Gladys Porter Zoo. I visited San Antonio Zoo (for the first time in YEARS) last month and they had a very similar looking animal on exhibit. I asked Alan Kardon there about beaded subspecies, and he believes only alvarezi can be accuratly "keyed out" by pattern/coloration. Or lack of I should say. : I've looked at a bunch of photographs and seen a few dozen live animals over the last few years (San Antonio has 3 displays and even more offspring in the back!)and the line between exasperatum and horridum can really be blurred! Obviously the pros have their work cut out for them LOL! : Andrew

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