Re: Very nice !

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Posted by BrianNielsen on January 09, 2003 at 06:49:20:

In Reply to: Re: Very nice ! posted by Jeremy G on January 02, 2003 at 15:14:50:

Hi,
yes they had a short burmation period and I used water to stimulate them.
My Aspidelaps l. lubricus adulte females are only about 50-55 cm and they are 3-4 years old. The males are a little shorter. The Aspidelaps l. infuscatus on the other hand are about 70-80 cm for the females and 55 cm for the males. So it is my experience that infuscatus is bigger and about 2-3 times as heavy as lubricus.
I have not tryed to breed my A.l.lubricus yet but I will use a tropical cooldown to about 20C at night and 24-25 in the daytime. The light will be turned off most of the day and only used for 1-2 hours a day so that the snakes have the opotunity to warm up. When I go back to normal I will use water to stimulate breeding.
Best regards
Brian

:Hi Brian,
:Im curious, did you burmate your Aspidelaps? If not, did you give them any sort of cool down or fasting period? The reason I ask is it seems cool down is esential to sucsessful reproduction with this sp. My pair of Lubricus(actually the female is an intergrade but looks pure pub)went at it hardcore last year, several times and my female ended up produceing 2 clutches of infertiles on me. Its seems the males was shooting blanks. i know with alot of other snakes burmation seems to play a role in sperm reliability and production and from the evidence that I have gatherd(both from my and many other peoples attemps)Aspidelaps seem to fall into this catogorey. Being that you said they are going at it right now made me wonder. You must keep in mind that they do experince a winter period and it would seem alot of people state side do not supply them with this because of their African origin.

:Another question, while introduced, what are you doing to stimulate mateing? With all of my Aspidelaps(lubricus ssp and scutatus)misting was a vital key in getting them in the mood. Hell, my male scutatus would try and rape the female within seconds of water hitting the cage. Though it sounds like yours are doing just fine on their own, for the lubricus, I would highly recomend it if you hadnt planned on it.

:Well man, nice looking critters and I wish you alot of luck with them. BTW, if you produce any PURE lubricus (Must not have even a trase of infuscatus in em)I am in desprate need of a female. Let me know and Ill do the same(Ill be putting mine together in alittle over a month(after they have been brought back up to temp and fed)

:Take care and heres a pic of my intergrade female and adult male lub.
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:Thefemale is the larger one:-) She measured at 34 inches the last time I took her out! She is far and away the biggest CC I have ever seen!! The male, at just over 20, is 4 yrs old! She is a few months younger then him!!!! I guess that infuscatus blood really does make a difference, huh?:-)

:Peace,
:J

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::It is also my favorite snake and I have 2.2 Aspidelaps l. infuscatus breeding right now and I will try to get my 4.2 Aspidelaps l. lubricus started later this year.
::If anyone know where I can get Aspidelaps l. cowlesi I would be very happy !
::Try to look at my snakes on http://community.webshots.com/user/briannielsen

:::Hey, I got some more Aspidelaps... Gotta love them.

:::I have 1.1 Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus, and I just picked up 1.1 Aspidelaps lubricus infuscatus last night! Awesome little animals!

:::Anyway, enjoy!

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