Does anybody know for sure what species this is???

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Posted by Slaytonp on April 23, 2003 at 09:56:51:

In Reply to: Does anybody know for sure what species this is??? posted by ferriera on April 23, 2003 at 09:31:50:

:No way its bassleri it has flash marks on the legs. I don�t think its femoralis as they tend to be blacker. I Have 4 hahneli but mine are still young and are black but the parents i think where more brown. They came from a friend of mine who keeps both hahneli and Femoralis if i can catch him online tonight Ill try to remember to ask him.
: Brian Ferriera JR
: Plympton, MA
::Looks like a form of Epipedobates bassleri to me (I could be wrong). If you would like to see more pics of them go to http://www.livingunderworld.org/gallery/photos/anura/dendrobatidae/epipedobates/bassleri/

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:::I've got a breeding group of 6. Bought them in Germany from an Hungarian guy. He said they are pictus but I don't think they are. They don't look the same and they sure don't sound the same. Some people think it could be femoralis. I go for hahneli for know. But I would sure like to have some more information. Does anybody know where in Peru they come from??

:::Greetings Remco

::Under the description I have for E. pictus it says: There is a bright spot, usually yellow to red under the base of the shank (proximoventral calf spot) that is absent in E. femoralis and almost all other similar species. I think I'm seeing this on your frog in the picture. The white stripes do not meet on the snout in pictus. But then if the call is different???
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