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Anyone else ever noticed round snouts in captive Elaphe?

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Posted by chrish on January 29, 2003 at 01:18:56:

I have wondered about this before (maybe here?). I see pics of Elaphe obsoleta on this site all the time and in books etc.

I often notice that cbb Elaphe have much more rounded, shorter rostra than wild caught snakes. I was looking at the bairdii posts a couple of pics down and noticed it again. Wild-caught snakes seem to have long elegant heads, captive snakes have rounded almost Pituophis like heads.

To see what I mean, compare the shape of the bardii head two posts down to the shape of this bairdi (or obsoleta x bardi?) head on a wild caught snake.

Anyone else ever notice this?


(P.S. - I won't use Pantherophis yet, not because I don't believe in the validity of the N.American lineage, but because I hate that name!)

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