Re: A couple garter pics for fellow Oregonians.......

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Posted by Richard F. Hoyer on May 10, 2002 at 12:08:24:

In Reply to: A couple garter pics for fellow Oregonians....... posted by KevinS on May 03, 2002 at 22:05:50:

Kevin:
I have viewed a number of specimens of the Common Garter Snake (T. sirtalis) from various part of the U.S. either first hand or via photographs and I consider our local subspecies, the Red-spotted Garter Snake (T. s. concinnus) as it occurs in the mid Willamette Valley to be the most attractive all subspecies of the Common Garter Snake. Only the subspecies in the San Francisco area rivals our local subspecies in my estimation.

The second picture you show below is more typical of specimens found bordering the valley or closer to the coast. Instead of having an almost entirely black ventral surface, reddish-orange head, and single dorsal stripe as is typical of the Red-spotted GS, those specimens generally have a light ventral surface, much more black on the head, and faint to prominant lateral stripes. The specimen you show looks more like the Puget Sound Garter Snake (T. s. pickeringi)than it does the Red-spotted variety here in the central Willamette Valley.
Richard F. Hoyer

: Her is a sweet one. Lets see the other states compete with these beauties!
: LOL
: KevinS

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: Kevin: : I have viewed a number of specimens of the Common Garter Snake (T. sirtalis) from various part of the U.S. either first hand or via photographs and I consider our local subspecies, the Red-spotted Garter Snake (T. s. concinnus) as it occurs in the mid Willamette Valley to be the most attractive all subspecies of the Common Garter Snake. Only the subspecies in the San Francisco area rivals our local subspecies in my estimation. : : The second picture you show below is more typical of specimens found bordering the valley or closer to the coast. Instead of having an almost entirely black ventral surface, reddish-orange head, and single dorsal stripe as is typical of the Red-spotted GS, those specimens generally have a light ventral surface, much more black on the head, and faint to prominant lateral stripes. The specimen you show looks more like the Puget Sound Garter Snake (T. s. pickeringi)than it does the Red-spotted variety here in the central Willamette Valley. : Richard F. Hoyer : : : Her is a sweet one. Lets see the other states compete with these beauties! : : LOL : : KevinS

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