Re: Well...Define "expensive"..

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Posted by John-Paul on May 17, 2002 at 03:22:15:

In Reply to: Well...Define "expensive".. posted by Mr. D on May 16, 2002 at 22:36:13:

My fiance works at a pet supply store, so as long as she doesn't actually sell the product at her store, she can likely get one for me at their cost, which would be a little cheaper than i'd be able to find one on the net. I just haven't done much research on the pricing. I do know what you're saying as far as it's not that much money considering the fact that they cover two products in one and last longer. I guess I just need to do a bit of homework on them before I feel totally safe with them, that's all. Are there any long term studies I can refer to on these types of bulbs?: Both the Actives and PowerSuns usually run between $50 and $80 depending on where you purchase them. If you're getting them at a retail chain such as PetCompany then they can have as much as a 400% markup on their products and they'll whack you for $80. HerpSupplies.com, on the other hand, gets about $54 each.

: Now, depending on where you're purchasing your fluo tubes you're most likely paying anywhere between $19 & $35 per bulb. Fluo tubes have to be replaced every 6 months maximum to be at all effective and only produce 10 microwatts/cm2 at 12" +/-. Merc vapors should last a minimum of 1 year, produce upwards of 50 microwatts/cm2 at 12", and produce significant basking heat as well.

: $54 for one mv bulb/ year, more UV exposure, basking heat as well.

: 2 fluo tubes per year - $38-$70 per year, significantly less UV, no heat production which means greater energy consumption due to multiple sources for uv, heat, and basking.

: Lasting effects - we've been running the bulbs here for nearly 2 years now with zero negative side effects on either iguana or human. Contrary to popular belief and certain published works, from my recent personal experience, UV "bleed" is nearly non-existant - at least when using a 160 watt flood bulb. Two feet to either side of a bulb at 12" and UVB readings drop to zero. Which means that the further to any side and the further down you get from a bulb the lesser the amount of UVB. Granted, a 160 spot bulb will generate more UV at greater distances - but that is what the bulb is designed for.

: 23 mv bulbs, plenty of healthy or recovering animals, zero tumors, cataracts, third arms growing from foreheads. In fact, assuming the application allows, they are all that we use around here.

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: My fiance works at a pet supply store, so as long as she doesn't actually sell the product at her store, she can likely get one for me at their cost, which would be a little cheaper than i'd be able to find one on the net. I just haven't done much research on the pricing. I do know what you're saying as far as it's not that much money considering the fact that they cover two products in one and last longer. I guess I just need to do a bit of homework on them before I feel totally safe with them, that's all. Are there any long term studies I can refer to on these types of bulbs?: Both the Actives and PowerSuns usually run between $50 and $80 depending on where you purchase them. If you're getting them at a retail chain such as PetCompany then they can have as much as a 400% markup on their products and they'll whack you for $80. HerpSupplies.com, on the other hand, gets about $54 each. : : Now, depending on where you're purchasing your fluo tubes you're most likely paying anywhere between $19 & $35 per bulb. Fluo tubes have to be replaced every 6 months maximum to be at all effective and only produce 10 microwatts/cm2 at 12" +/-. Merc vapors should last a minimum of 1 year, produce upwards of 50 microwatts/cm2 at 12", and produce significant basking heat as well. : : $54 for one mv bulb/ year, more UV exposure, basking heat as well. : : 2 fluo tubes per year - $38-$70 per year, significantly less UV, no heat production which means greater energy consumption due to multiple sources for uv, heat, and basking. : : Lasting effects - we've been running the bulbs here for nearly 2 years now with zero negative side effects on either iguana or human. Contrary to popular belief and certain published works, from my recent personal experience, UV "bleed" is nearly non-existant - at least when using a 160 watt flood bulb. Two feet to either side of a bulb at 12" and UVB readings drop to zero. Which means that the further to any side and the further down you get from a bulb the lesser the amount of UVB. Granted, a 160 spot bulb will generate more UV at greater distances - but that is what the bulb is designed for. : : 23 mv bulbs, plenty of healthy or recovering animals, zero tumors, cataracts, third arms growing from foreheads. In fact, assuming the application allows, they are all that we use around here.

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