Re: If you and Crystal want credibility-then answer specific questions....

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Posted by Crystal on March 11, 2002 at 13:47:58:

In Reply to: If you and Crystal want credibility-then answer specific questions.... posted by cwatbay on March 11, 2002 at 13:19:16:

Its getting old, give it up....uve won, happy?
Im still doing my rescue....and you all can do yours.

: I will admit, I have no clue who you are and have no clue what your qualifications are as much as Crystal's.

: I have read all the posts and what I have found is that both you and her have answered questions that deal with specifics in a overly defensive manner with generalized answers that do not adequately address the questions.

: It seems that both you and her are acting like you have a lot to hide-whether you are doing it purposely or not.

: People have asked her age: mostly for the purpose of knowing exactly how much experience and maturity she has - she has blown this off and refuses to answer.

: People have asked on specifics of the cages and housing equipment. She says she has six and built two in one night ( I wish I could do that - takes me at least week and around $600 per enclosure)- but she won't be specific on how many lights, brands or types of lights/CHE's/UVB bulbs and the rest, nor are any dimensions given.

: She has a one page Geocities web site, which is free by the way, but already she has had to make changes to it due to response from this forum, which tells me that not a lot of development or forethought went into it - this does spill over into other parts of her operation or planned operation - how much real forethought and planning went into that ???

: Leaving you out of this and going back solely to Chystal: If you are going to make claims and tell folks about your plans,then you need to back them up with specifics -

: instead of being evasive and defensive -- which she did long before any negative comments came out.

: What I am getting from you and her is a "us verses them" mentality --- which wouldn't have happened if she had been open and honest to begin with.

: By evading the first simple and inquisitive questions, she invited more critical and specific questions and comments. What should have been a few lines of posts has now turned into a major argument with one set of people getting fustrated and pissed off, and , another set getting more defensive with increased posturing on the other.

: If Crystal is going to come to this forum with a "feel good" general plan on iguana adoptions and expects to get a bunch of "warm fuzzy" reaction to it --- well, welcome to the real world- it just isn't going to happen. This isn't a group of her friends all getting together for a "group hug" "I'm ok, your'e ok" positive energy therapy session.

: It is experienced, well educated people that take husbandry seriously - and - expect others that want to join the group to be just as mature, serious and openly honest about it as they are.

: If you want to be her friend and defend her, that's fine. I have no problem with that. On the other hand, backing up your point of view with honest and open specifics will rectify this situation quickly.

: CW

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: Its getting old, give it up....uve won, happy? : Im still doing my rescue....and you all can do yours. : : I will admit, I have no clue who you are and have no clue what your qualifications are as much as Crystal's. : : I have read all the posts and what I have found is that both you and her have answered questions that deal with specifics in a overly defensive manner with generalized answers that do not adequately address the questions. : : It seems that both you and her are acting like you have a lot to hide-whether you are doing it purposely or not. : : People have asked her age: mostly for the purpose of knowing exactly how much experience and maturity she has - she has blown this off and refuses to answer. : : People have asked on specifics of the cages and housing equipment. She says she has six and built two in one night ( I wish I could do that - takes me at least week and around $600 per enclosure)- but she won't be specific on how many lights, brands or types of lights/CHE's/UVB bulbs and the rest, nor are any dimensions given. : : She has a one page Geocities web site, which is free by the way, but already she has had to make changes to it due to response from this forum, which tells me that not a lot of development or forethought went into it - this does spill over into other parts of her operation or planned operation - how much real forethought and planning went into that ??? : : Leaving you out of this and going back solely to Chystal: If you are going to make claims and tell folks about your plans,then you need to back them up with specifics - : : instead of being evasive and defensive -- which she did long before any negative comments came out. : : What I am getting from you and her is a "us verses them" mentality --- which wouldn't have happened if she had been open and honest to begin with. : : By evading the first simple and inquisitive questions, she invited more critical and specific questions and comments. What should have been a few lines of posts has now turned into a major argument with one set of people getting fustrated and pissed off, and , another set getting more defensive with increased posturing on the other. : : If Crystal is going to come to this forum with a "feel good" general plan on iguana adoptions and expects to get a bunch of "warm fuzzy" reaction to it --- well, welcome to the real world- it just isn't going to happen. This isn't a group of her friends all getting together for a "group hug" "I'm ok, your'e ok" positive energy therapy session. : : It is experienced, well educated people that take husbandry seriously - and - expect others that want to join the group to be just as mature, serious and openly honest about it as they are. : : If you want to be her friend and defend her, that's fine. I have no problem with that. On the other hand, backing up your point of view with honest and open specifics will rectify this situation quickly. : : CW

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