I appreciate your advice. I'm now convinced she's layden. No brumation or breeding necessary ay? I guess she's healthy.... She double clutched the only time I ever bred her -years ago now. The first (fertilized) was 21 eggs, the second (unfertilized) was 8. I remember being kinda freaked out by that second clutch as I didn't know that could happen. She does seem ok, I hope she hurries up and lays them so she can start eating and I can stop worrying. I'll prepare her a special nest box to maybe help precipitate that... Oh well, live (with snakes) and learn! Thanks Carol!